RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Grizzly G8689 mini-mill CNC retrofit kit

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> I see one common theme among the messages on this group and
> it is sort of like the snip below. IS everyone on this list
> trying to build the absolute cheapest machine they can get??
> I am missing something but if you want good stuff everything
> I see asked for is available retail, so the motive here is to
> get it done for free or cheap or surplus, is that the hobby,
> building CNC machine that work flawlessly, have ultimate
> accuracy and so all that out of junk yard scrap or surplus
> used parts.?? Than is okay and this s a non judgmental
> question but I find it amazing that those expectations are
> publicized and people actually admit that they are cheap,
> want the best and al for free or nest to nothing. Then I see
> responses to people who offer a quality product and expect
> and deserve to paid for it as derogative or attacks.
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> It may be possible to stumble across exactly what you need at
> a better than retail price but to set the criteria up and
> engineer your equipment from a budget of next to nothing is
> not very realistic and nt far to the vendors who are trying
> to accommodate the mixed signals. I myself will pay whatever
> it cost, my goals are different. I want ease of use,
> reliability, accuracy and technical support and I wil pay as
> much as that costs, if MASTERCAM is the only way to get there
> then I wil pay that $4000.00 price. but you mostly all have
> way more time on your hands than I do, if you measure the
> effort you spent in saving a few bucks against the actual
> time you were able to spend producing parts your parts are
> more expensive than you think, because you trick yourselves
> into thinking the research time invested in free part cost
> you nothing. Just for fun keep a time sheet of you computer
> time/ebay time and pay yourself $12.00 an hour. when you get
> done in one week and still have not found what you need or
> have to spend another 20 hours, soldering/modifying the
> surplus parts to meet the need and the results are lees than
> the factory version, you aid more than buying the off the
> shelf model. I think that is the answer, the hobby here is to
> spend hobby time doing it for free, not necessarily doing it
> cost effective or right. Please no flames, just answer the
> questions honestly. Johnno
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I think the definition of this group explains why you see the comments
you do. Here is the description on the website:
"This list is for discussion of CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO. This list is aimed at
the construction and use of this equipment in a Home Shop Machinist
environment. It is not moderated, but I would hope that the discussion
will consist of Links, sources, progress reports, and things of this
nature, on the above subjects. It not aimed at the commercial
professional systems, and there users. This list is a direct result of
the discussions on the above subject at NAMES, 1999."

As you will note it is aimed at the home shop, not the commercial
areana. This tends to dictate that money is often more precious than
time and that the creation of the machine may be the goal, not the
ultimate production of parts. You will also find that there are quite a
number of retired folks on the list and that dictates a different
approach than would be appropriate for a profit oriented firm.

Even within the home hobby contingent you will find a range of
interests, goals, and financing. I personally am more into the
technology and while I want to have a working machine it is not for any
specific production, but to suit any whim I may have. I don't have
unlimited funds so I frequently search surplus and E-bay to get as much
for my money as possible. OTOH, I spend a lot on this hobby. Probably
have spend $10000 or so in the last year. That probably puts me toward
the top end of what is spent by the average hobbiest.

Just so you know, we enjoy having the professionals that are on the
list. So while the list is intended for home shop people there is a good
amount of interaction on the list. We just want to make sure that the
intent of the list is to enable the home hobbyist.

Tim
[Denver, CO]

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> ""for at an affordable price..... I search ebay
> frequently,..... let me know of any other surplus sites to
> search......."
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