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--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., ballendo@y... wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> While I don't believe the internet will "die", we certainly must
> expect it to become "subscription based". At least those parts
which
> are deemed by SOMEONE to have "paid for" value to others...
>
> We don't have to look very far to see precedents. The bay bridges
in
> Northern California were supposed to be free after the original
> construction cost was recovered ("They" just approved raising the
toll
> another buck to 3 in light of the decreased usage due to terroist
> threat; yah right THAT'S WHY<G>) Part of the price we pay for our
> freedom is the capitalist motto of "where there's a buck, there's a
> way"
>
> A better example would be cable tv. Remember the promise of no
> commercials if ya just pay the "low" monthly fee...
>
> Professionals in many fields have been paying for "content" for
> generations...
>
> The leading moneymakers on the internet are likely "porn sites",
which
> are also well versed in "getting the client to pay"(maybe not by
> volume of dollars, but certainly by number of "functional" setups).
>
> Another "winning strategy" (pun intended) already in place is the
> fee-based nature of interactive role-playing games which abound on
the
> net.
>
> So it(paying for the internet) is already here, it just hasn't
> filtered down all the way....,
> YET!
>
> I remain hopeful that at least the seriously educational value of
the
> internet will be preserved at some "flat rate access" fee schedule
> (maybe we just pay a "tax" to our ISP, who passes it along to the
> "appropriate" people).
>
> Many programs (and a recently released OS<G>) already "report in"
to
> the mfg. company when they are used. In the name of "security" and
> "customer service" (yeah right; it's a pretty short step to
> "monitoring usage"). And Mr. Bill (Gates, that is) has long said
the
> future of the internet (and all computing, if he gets his way; and
he
> has often enough in the past to make it worth a listen, even iffen
ya
> don't agree ) is "subscription based... Larry Ellison of Oracle has
> wanted a similar situation for some time, remember his push
for "dumb"
> terminals?
>
> What's really interesting is that we have come/are coming full
circle
> back to the place we were BEFORE the PC "revolution" took the power
of
> computers out of the hands of the few, and put them on desktops for
> "everybody"...
>
> So I'd have to say, time and ingenuity ARE key, but they are
usually
> more forcefully applied to MAKE money, rather than to keep
something
> (which CAN make money) "free". The fact that the world "may" be
> entering a recession, will only change the timeframe, IMO, NOT the
> results. So I'm gettin' while the getting is good...
>
> One mans thoughts,
>
> Ballendo
>
> P.S. I post online, and am now dealing with a "posting toll", in
the
> form of a pop-up ad which I HAVE TO "click past", before returning
to
> the list mesages after I compose and post. Didn't we (as a group)
> ALREADY PAY NOT to have ANY "ads"!
>
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., dlantz@a... wrote:
> > thinking that the internet is 'dieing' may be a shortsighted view.
> > NON-internet companies are suffering too, the world has entered a
> recession.
> > things will get back on track, it will only take time and
inginuity.
> WOW,
> > 12000? thats crazy!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cncdxf@a... [mailto:cncdxf@a...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:28 AM
> > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y...
> > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Yahoo Groups Problems?????
> >
> >
> > Jon,
> > Then when Yahoo pulls the plug you won't care? Everything
> > is about money or power and sometimes both. I had a BBS years
> > ago. I put 12,000 dollars into it over a five year period. I
> > had Fido mail way before the Internet got big. Fido got killed
> > because they were Non Profit. The Internet is dieing the facts
> > speak for themselves. Some form of the Internet will survive but
> > the FREE hosting will be gone very soon! Blue Light, Netzero
> > and other have gone or cut back. Go to %&^$edcompany.com
> > and you can see the Dot coms that die off everyday.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., Jon Anderson <janders@n...> wrote:
> > > cncdxf@a... wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Internet is not working.
> > > > Only a few people are making money with it.
> > >
> > > The internet is working fine. It was never intended to be the
> latest
> > > capitalist get-rich-quick scheme...
> > >
> > > Jon