RE: I-LPT & step/dir servo amps

Gar -

I find Hoyt's comments just plain frank; nothing deeper. I can understand
your views, however, and how the whole issue might be taken a different way.
Since most of us don't get the chance to talk face-to-face, I think alot of
our meanings and intents won't always come across as intended. All those
subtle facial expressions and verbal nuances get filtered out real quick
with Courier font, and I for one am not up to speed on all the "netiquette"
and special symbols [ ;o)... etc. ]. I've been accused of being hardheaded
and abrasive sometimes, but the best I can do is to try to be patient,
tolerant, and I'm learning to be thick-skinned.

Sincerely,
Carlos Guillermo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gar Willis [mailto:garfield@...]
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 10:44 PM
> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] I-LPT & step/dir servo amps
>
>
> From: garfield@... (Gar Willis)
>
> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:08:31 -0400, "Carlos Guillermo"
> <Carlos@...> wrote:
>
> >> >I'm happy to see some discussion about Indexer LPT, even
> though it *is* a
> >> >for-profit product.
> >>
> >Hoyt wrote:
> >> Why should that matter? I see discussion of a number of
> >> commercial products in here.
> >
> >Carlos writes:
> >You're right, It shouldn't. Ever since the recent battle,
> though, I've been
> >a little gun-shy about pushing any software that isn't open-sourced and
> >free.
>
> Let's keep the facts straight, shall we? There *never* is nor was any
> problem discussing either kind of software, AFAIK, until Mr. Guano there
> questioned people's motives for bothering with EMC, cuz it was sooooo
> hard to set up, in the midst of touting his own stuff. Fine to tout your
> own stuff, that ISN'T why he got flamed by me. It was for peeing on
> others who don't happen to share his 'product vision', and instead find
> MANY good reasons for being interested in EMC, besides his snotty
> suggestion that we do so because we wanted to "deal in discomfort",
> whatever that drivel meant.
>
> I'll quote you from his last on the subject, since you've obviously
> revised it a good deal in your own mind:
>
> Quoting Mr. Guano from Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:34:53,
> >You do have to admit the setting up linux/emc seems to be
> >difficult and tedious and a question about the motives for
> pursuing that is
> >a natural one.
> and also from the same missive:
> >...I do wonder about their purposes: whether all that is to
> share info as you
> >claim is the object, or to deal in discomfort.
>
> Sorry to have to "deal in discomfort" some more, but the *truth* seems
> to have that effect on you, hence the quotations.
>
> If Mr. Guano thot he was justified in sliming people's motives for their
> interest in EMC, because he felt his own commercial interests in L-IPT
> or whatever, were brought into question by someone else, he should have
> answered just that one person, instead of painting this
> psuedo-psychobabble bullshit about us guys being interested in EMC "just
> for the pain". I still find his comments on that subject to this day to
> be totally disrespectful and contemptuous of many of the people on this
> list, and utterly without any justification whatsoever. I think he owes
> us an apology.
>
> Lemme illustrate, Carlo. Remember when you came on this list and
> suggested your grand plan for the ideal product in CNC? A proposed
> business venture of your own? Did you get flamed and despised for having
> such aspirations? Nope. But IF you had said, "I'm suggesting this
> proposed product, because I see all yous guys struggling with EMC, and
> think that's kinda sick, you must love pain or somethin". THEN what do
> you think your reception would have been? That's what your pal Guano
> there did. Go back and READ his posts if you can take it.
>
> You keep distorting what happened, buddy, and I'll keep reminding you of
> the "painful" truth about it. See, I'm interested in EMC, so you gotta
> know I just LUV "dealing in discomfort". Heh.
>
> Gar
>
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