Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] resistor for power supply
Posted by
JanRwl@A...
on 2001-12-10 18:27:17 UTC
Peter:
This is "theoretically" necessary when the CAP is very, very large, and the
efficiency of the rectifier is 99% (no such thing!), and the transformer has
ZERO internal resistance. Then, you can get "nearly infinite" current-surge
for ONE cycle, and some who realize they often forget to wear their diapers
fear this will BLOW things. Prolly DID, back when Cu-O rectifers were used,
etc.
Calculation? That R will reduce the power-supply efficiency, make heat,
introduce inherent unreliability, etc., etc., and the only way to "calculate"
how large to make it is to TRY a dozen or more low-R values (fraction of an
ohm?) until "something blows" Then, use the next-higher size (resistance)
that "worked" OK. You can't really "calculate" this R, as it exists only as
a "shock-absorber" for nasties not really very accurately calculable. For
example, if a C has "68,000 uF" stamped on it, it may-well have a practical
actual capacitance of 100,000 uF. Even more! Or, as low as, say, 0.8*68,000
uF.
Do NOT confuse this "R" with a "bleed resistor"! The latter should be in the
high-K range, depending on the physical room for whatever R-wattage required
for the supply-voltage involved, and how fast you would want to "bleed" the C
down to, say, 65 VDC (a "safe" level).
Lotsa luck! Jan Rowland
This is "theoretically" necessary when the CAP is very, very large, and the
efficiency of the rectifier is 99% (no such thing!), and the transformer has
ZERO internal resistance. Then, you can get "nearly infinite" current-surge
for ONE cycle, and some who realize they often forget to wear their diapers
fear this will BLOW things. Prolly DID, back when Cu-O rectifers were used,
etc.
Calculation? That R will reduce the power-supply efficiency, make heat,
introduce inherent unreliability, etc., etc., and the only way to "calculate"
how large to make it is to TRY a dozen or more low-R values (fraction of an
ohm?) until "something blows" Then, use the next-higher size (resistance)
that "worked" OK. You can't really "calculate" this R, as it exists only as
a "shock-absorber" for nasties not really very accurately calculable. For
example, if a C has "68,000 uF" stamped on it, it may-well have a practical
actual capacitance of 100,000 uF. Even more! Or, as low as, say, 0.8*68,000
uF.
Do NOT confuse this "R" with a "bleed resistor"! The latter should be in the
high-K range, depending on the physical room for whatever R-wattage required
for the supply-voltage involved, and how fast you would want to "bleed" the C
down to, say, 65 VDC (a "safe" level).
Lotsa luck! Jan Rowland
Discussion Thread
cadcamcenter
2001-12-10 16:52:42 UTC
resistor for power supply
Bob Campbell
2001-12-10 17:20:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] resistor for power supply
Christopher Coley
2001-12-10 17:30:01 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] resistor for power supply
JanRwl@A...
2001-12-10 18:27:17 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] resistor for power supply
JanRwl@A...
2001-12-10 18:27:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] resistor for power supply
cadcamcenter
2001-12-10 18:59:02 UTC
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2001-12-10 19:01:13 UTC
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Carol & Jerry Jankura
2001-12-10 19:06:11 UTC
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mariss92705
2001-12-10 19:07:56 UTC
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2001-12-10 19:09:29 UTC
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Carol & Jerry Jankura
2001-12-10 19:19:33 UTC
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Matt Shaver
2001-12-10 19:27:17 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] resistor for power supply
JanRwl@A...
2001-12-10 20:47:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: resistor for power supply
JanRwl@A...
2001-12-10 20:50:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: resistor for power supply
Jon Elson
2001-12-10 21:12:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] resistor for power supply