RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Text file description of GUI - controller uploaded

My biggest complaint with all of the CNC gui's is that I have no choice as
to what buttons I have on my screen. If I don't need or want a particular
function on the screen, why can't there be an option to remove that function
from the screen or place it on a secondary screen? The functions could all
be left in the pull down menu's but not have the buttons on the screen if
one chose not to have it on the screen. This is pretty much standard
windows programming, so why do the CNC controll programs ignore this
capability.

John Guenther
Sterling, Virginia

> -----Original Message-----
> From: audiomaker2000 [mailto:audiomaker@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Text file description of GUI - controller
> uploaded
>
>
> Ballendo,
>
> Thanks for the input. I actually agree on both counts.
> Let's look at the resolution issue as it's been bugging me as well...
> On all of my home computers (except for the laptops) I run 21"
> monitors. However, I'm guessing that Art from Master5 is using a 17"
> based on the resolution of his app. Of course, I have no intention of
> using a 21" monitor for the PC controller. The most likely size
> would be a 15", and so I dug one up, and you are right...Master 5 is
> microscopic at 1024 on a 15". I tried to compensate in my little
> graphic by making the buttons larger, but I think 800X600 would allow
> you to work better on a 15". Being that PC controllers aren't
> proprietarty to a certain display as stock CNC programs are, you need
> to find a setting that can live on a few monitors.
> Considering that some people mount their new CNC monitors on the
> orginal pendant, I think 15" would be the most popular choice, not to
> mention probably the most common to find both in tube driven and LCD
> type screens.
> I didn't check to see how large the buttons of my little GUI are at
> 1024 on a 15", but 800X600 probably would work well.
> When playing with the Master5 demo, I actually had to go through a
> few 15" monitors until I found one that would run 1024. I suppose the
> manufacturers felt that resolution was too high for a 15" and we both
> agree on that.
> By the way, the "why do developers need to put everything on one
> screen" comment was made by me, and is part of the reason I started
> designing this theoretical GUI. I'll refine it a little more as we go
> along. The biggest bug with the GUI is that all you can do with it is
> look at it.
>
> Regards
> Sean
>
> In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "ballendo" <ballendo@y...> wrote:
> > Sean,
> >
> > A quick read through just now...
> >
> > I don't think having the cycle start button become a feedhold is a
> > good idea. Fingers will be trained to do something which may result
> > in a problem... A finger trained to goto this particular part of
> the
> > screen to "hold" COULD instead "START". Not a good thing. Like
> > inpouts and outputs in the electricals, starts and stops should be
> > kept separate, IMO.
> >
> > Along the same lines, the more consistent you can be "across" the
> > various screens, the better. Again thinking in terms of "this area
> > for one type of thing, that area for another..."
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Ballendo (I'll read it again more carefully later)
> >
> > P.S. The buttons look nice, but the large screen size 1024x768 is a
> > PITA, IMO. Feel the same way about Master5. We're not all "driving"
> > 17" monitors at 1.8gigahz! The BEST comment I've read recently was
> > the one asking WHY the pc-based control designers felt the need to
> > put everything on ONE screen! I'd MUCH prefer more smaller screens,
> > compared to the one size that don't fit version...
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "audiomaker2000" <audiomaker@s...>
> wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > I've uploaded a draft description to go along with the PC
> > controller
> > > graphics I made at:
> > >
> > >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO/files/audiomaker2000/
> > >
> > >
> > > If you download the txt file along with the jpg's, it will
> describe
> > > what some of it does and how it is designed.
> > >
> > > I still haven't gotten any feedback on this and I am curious as
> to
> > > what you all think?
> > >
> > >
> > > Many Thanks
> > > Sean
>
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