Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
Posted by
n4onl
on 2002-11-25 22:03:55 UTC
Without isolation your hooked directly to the AC line through the
variac. To many people have been electrocuted that way. If a ground
comes loose, you can end up with a floating voltage on the chassis,
Bad News. Another possibility is part if the winding opens up, then
you have Full AC voltage going to the rectifier. Plug the Power
Supply into an outlet thats wired wrong and you have 120vac on the
chassis!
Older Black and white TVs use to rectify the AC line, they Got Away
With It because Nothing with possible electrical potential, including
ground, was exposed.
I bet if you check those industral machines with DC in them they
aren't rectifying the AC line directly, their using an isolation
transformer. They don't want to kill their customers.
If you have a machine with 240vac going to the spindle, then the cost
of an isolation transformer is very cheap for the safety it provides.
If someone wants to use a variac to get their voltage set, thats
fine, IF they use an isolation transformer in front of it and lock
the adjustment knob.
Dont get me wrong, i'm not a safety freak, I drive fast, don't wear a
seatbelt... and generally laugh at what most folks do in the name of
safety these days, but the thought if not using isolation scares me.
mike
variac. To many people have been electrocuted that way. If a ground
comes loose, you can end up with a floating voltage on the chassis,
Bad News. Another possibility is part if the winding opens up, then
you have Full AC voltage going to the rectifier. Plug the Power
Supply into an outlet thats wired wrong and you have 120vac on the
chassis!
Older Black and white TVs use to rectify the AC line, they Got Away
With It because Nothing with possible electrical potential, including
ground, was exposed.
I bet if you check those industral machines with DC in them they
aren't rectifying the AC line directly, their using an isolation
transformer. They don't want to kill their customers.
If you have a machine with 240vac going to the spindle, then the cost
of an isolation transformer is very cheap for the safety it provides.
If someone wants to use a variac to get their voltage set, thats
fine, IF they use an isolation transformer in front of it and lock
the adjustment knob.
Dont get me wrong, i'm not a safety freak, I drive fast, don't wear a
seatbelt... and generally laugh at what most folks do in the name of
safety these days, but the thought if not using isolation scares me.
mike
> Tim,important on
>
> How big of a deal do you think it is? I suppose it may be more
> a little desk top like a Sherline, but a larger machine willalready have
> 240 VAC in the spindle motor. The iron should be grounded and anylose
> wires should simply short.industrial
>
> Isolation is a fine idea, but I had used DC in lots of larger
> machines. Sometimes we let the DC float, but more often I tried totie it
> down. I like to know where things are, particularly voltages.
>
> GTJ
Discussion Thread
mmiami johnson
2002-11-25 14:58:14 UTC
variable transformer for dc power supply
Lee Studley
2002-11-25 15:16:22 UTC
Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
Lee Studley
2002-11-25 15:18:20 UTC
Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
Tim Goldstein
2002-11-25 15:39:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] variable transformer for dc power supply
Kory Hamzeh
2002-11-25 17:29:22 UTC
Some more questions
Tim Goldstein
2002-11-25 18:19:32 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Some more questions
Kory Hamzeh
2002-11-25 18:35:52 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Some more questions
Tim Goldstein
2002-11-25 18:41:10 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Some more questions
Greg Jackson
2002-11-25 18:54:17 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] variable transformer for dc power supply
mmiami johnson
2002-11-25 19:15:36 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] variable transformer for dc power supply
n4onl
2002-11-25 22:03:55 UTC
Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
Jon Elson
2002-11-25 22:15:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] variable transformer for dc power supply
n4onl
2002-11-25 22:23:09 UTC
Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
Jon Elson
2002-11-25 22:28:12 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
mmiami johnson
2002-11-26 02:41:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
Greg Jackson
2002-11-26 05:29:37 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
n4onl
2002-11-26 07:13:07 UTC
Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
n4onl
2002-11-26 07:24:49 UTC
Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
Carol & Jerry Jankura
2002-11-26 08:46:05 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: variable transformer for dc power supply
Lee Studley
2002-11-27 14:02:30 UTC
Re: variable transformer for dc power supply