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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] MAX speed of an rotary encoder

Posted by Patrick J
on 2003-08-10 20:19:48 UTC
Hi Jon,

> Flanks? I certainly don't understand you there.
The encoder outputs 2 squarewaves, when the speed is too high there
will be no flanks only a high signal.

> should be able to do much better than 1000 RPM.
> Most will handle at least 100,000 counts/second.

Yes, thats why I am a bit confused... I just checked my notes and
it was even less than 1k rmp. Actually got overspeed error at 955 rpm!
It seem to work reliable at around 375 rmp tho. (didnt test much inbetween)
I calulated mine to 2.5kHz
(375rpm x 100 pulses/rev *4 (for quad) = 2.5kHz)


> Some encoders are open-
> collector, and need a pull-up resistor to +5 V. These would be sink-only
> outputs. I haven't run across source-only outputs, but that doesn't
> mean they don't exist. They would require a pull-down resistor to ground.
> Most encoders, especially those that run from +5 V, have outputs that
> drive both high and low, but in soma cases they benefit from pull-up
> resistors, too.

> You have not told us what encoders you have,

It says 'Point s.r.l' on them and the logo is a circle filled with bent
lines (arcs)
'via Zucchi 39 - Cusano M.'
'Made in italy'
mod # = WI422B100Z24E12PR/PP
24V
thats about it, except for colorcode for the outputs.

> what circuitry you are using to interface them,

Opto-couplers to isolate and handle the levelshift down to 5v
for the PIC MCU. Had pullup to 24v or 12v (tried both)

> or what the nature of the problem is.
Bad performance, way less than expected
Kinda thought it might be due to my opto, or too weak pullup or
something...

> Do you have an oscilloscope?
Yes I do.

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