Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Request for CNC lathe enclosure and control panel ideas

Standing in front of the tool becomes pretty important sometimes. (in other
words, not stepping away at all)
I would like to hear from people also. What is the most optimal floor plan
ever?

1. Be able to monitor everything from right in front of the tool. (not
moving to peek at screens, etc.)
2. Still be able to have Open access to existing tool features of course
like safety features, etc.
3. Provide good protection to screens, computer enclosures, etc. from all
the Curlies, Coolant, and Oil being thrown from the mill or lathe.
4. And the most important, "To not block or reduce needed lighting."

I would think, necessary items would need to be raised off the floor..
Does someone have a drawing or picture that could help figure out this floor
plan?

Vince

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Cox" <sinergy@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Request for CNC lathe enclosure and control
panel ideas


> Kim,
>
> Having the enclosure open like a car boot sounds like a good idea, why not
> mount all the control stuff in some kind of rolling cart, that way the
> operator could move it wherever was necessary.
>
> Im not sure wether or not this machine is on its own stand but if it were
me
> I would remake a stand/enclosure unit and have the whole lathe mounted on
a
> slant to allow all chips to fall away from the lathe into a removable
tray.
>
> My mill enclosure is designed so that all coolant and chips happily fall
> into a tray at the bottom of the enclosure, the coolant is filtered from
the
> chips and re-used and at the end of the day all I do is slide out the tray
> and tip the chips in the bin... nice and tidy.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jason
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kim Lux <lux@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 3:38 PM
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Request for CNC lathe enclosure and control
panel
> ideas
>
>
> > Hi people.
> >
> > We've got a retrofitted 13x40 lathe. Geckos, ballscrews, coolant,
> > servos, turbocnc etc.
> >
> > It works great except that:
> >
> > a) While operating it throws debris (mostly metal cuttings) up to 8 feet
> > from the lathe. Yes, we are using chip breaking inserts.
> >
> > b) We need a better way to mount the CNC control panel, ie 17" LCD,
> > feedwheels and keyboard.
> >
> > Firstly, we need some sort of total enclosure. I've seen the sliding
> > door type, but don't like it because it limits the accessibility of the
> > lathe bed. We use gang and live tooling and need to change setups from
> > time to time, so we need totally unfettered access. I'm thinking about
> > something that opens like a car trunk, but I'd like to hear your ideas
> > on the subject.
> >
> > Next, we need to mount the LCD, keyboard and feedwheel panel. If we
> > used a sliding enclosure, we could mount these items to the enclosure
> > because they would still be accessible when the enclosure was open. If
> > the enclosure opens like a car truck, the control panel would be 7 feet
> > in the air and unaccessible.
> >
> > Furthermore, we use the lathe for one off prototype work and will want
> > to run it from the feedwheels (and MDI) while in jog mode. This means
> > the feedwheels need to be close to the saddle so the operator can watch
> > the tool cutting while operating them. While in this mode we also need
> > the LCD to be easily readable as it will be used like a DRO.
> >
> > It is like we need the control panel and LCD mounted in different places
> > at different times:
> >
> > a) while jog machining, the LCD should be over and behind the spindle so
> > that you could look up and see the position. (I know this would be very
> > bad for the LCD !) The feedwheels should be on the carriage. I don't
> > know where the keyboard should be, but we need it for MDI commands,
> > resetting positions, jogging to position, etc. The enclosure will be
> > open when jog machining.
> >
> > b) while automatic machining, the LCD, feedwheels and keyboard should be
> > outside the enclosure, beside the window, maybe in front of the
> > headstock.
> >
> > We don't need the control panel on the lathe to be set up for writing G
> > code as we use a different computer for that, one at a desk. We do do
> > some light editing at the lathe though.
> >
> > I've given thought to putting the LCD and keyboard on an adjustable arm,
> > but I'm worried about having a shaky mount and it being a pain to move
> > all the time.
> >
> > Any ideas ?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Kim Lux <lux@...>
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