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Low cost Servo drives +/-10V analog....and Camsoft.

Posted by dan
on 2003-10-08 09:58:56 UTC
This question may have been asked hundreds of times....
Looking for a source of servo drives that accept +/-10Vdc
analog input. Low cost (of course). The Advanced and Copely's
are a bit pricy IMHO. Elmo looks interesting, but they wouldn't
sell me 2 or 3, at reasonable prices. They deal in OEM quantities
only. Need something in the 80V 10/15A cont. size range.

Thanks

Shawn: How do you like the Camsoft product so far??

dan k





--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Shawncd" <shawncd@p...>
wrote:
> Thanks to everyone that responded...
>
> Jon,
> To answer most of your questions here is what I have done so far.
When I
> first got the machine home I installed a Advantech industrial
computer with
> a Galil DMC 1040 control card. Next I installed Galils servo tuning
software
> and Camsofts cnc software. As I tuned the servos for the new system
I
> noticed that Z wasn't working, so I diagnosed and found the servo
amp to be
> the culprit. After searching all over tarnation for the best price
on a new
> / used one. I found one that was identical, except for it has the
latest
> revisions. (electrically the board looks a little different from the
> original) After installing it I noticed that with just axis Z
plugged in
> there was silence. No whining noise, as with the other drives. So
that's
> when I started questioning the older drives. Maybe the older units
just
> sound this way because of the lower frequency. And the newer revised
> versions have the fix for this nusense noise. Or maybe the other two
are
> about to fry as well. Which would make sense because there all the
same age.
> Anyway, the other two older drives seem to function and hold
tolerance. But
> it started to make me wonder if I should start looking for two more
drives
> to replace the others. With hardly any support coming from Servo
Dynamics
> this was my next best place for info.
>
> Regards
> Shawn
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Elson" <elson@p...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise
>
>
> >
> >
> > shawncd2001 wrote:
> >
> > >I recently purchased an older Milltronics Partner mill. This
> > >particular unit uses the older Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drives.
> > >I have tuned the drives to where they perform the way I want
them,
> > >but there is an ear piercing whine or whistling sonund coming
from
> > >the boards. Anybody out there have the same problem? Any ideas on
a
> > >fix? Any information would be much appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Yup, these older drives have very low frequency PWM cycles, and so
> > produce lots of audible tone. Looking in the book, it says it is
16 KHz.
> > Most people past their 20's can't hear much up there anymore.
This would
> > be the same pitch as the horizontal output of a TV set.
> >
> > I'm wondering if what you are getting is a subharmonic or
unrelated
> > lower frequency than the 16 KHz? Can you make the pitch or
loudness
> > of the tone change by moving the axis to a different position, or
> > manually damping the shafts (motor, encoder, tach) with your
hands?
> > Can you make a guess at the frequency of the tone? Are you sure
it
> > is coming from the servo amp, and not the motor?
> >
> > You might also disconnect or disable all but one amp at a time to
see
> > if it is one particular amp, or all of them emit this tone. If
you can
> > disconnect the velocity command signal from the CNC control to
> > the amps, you can see if this is a positioning loop oscillation,
or
> > just in the servo amp.
> >
> > The Servo Dynamics does have inductors on the output. They appear
> > to be quite small, so it doesn't seem likely they are emitting
much
> > sound. There is a large transformer (T3) on the circuit board. I
have
> > only partial schematics of this amp, but I assume this is a DC-DC
> > converter that provides isolated power to floating circuits in the
> > amp. It may be running at an abnormally low frequency. Without
> > diagrams, I can't go much further. You could try wrapping foam
> > around this transformer, but if it already runs hot, that might
not
> > be a good idea.
> >
> > Jon
> >
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Discussion Thread

shawncd2001 2003-10-07 05:51:12 UTC Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise doug98105 2003-10-07 06:23:58 UTC Re: Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise Bob Simon 2003-10-07 06:54:28 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise Jon Elson 2003-10-07 09:39:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise k8zre 2003-10-07 10:55:12 UTC Re: Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise Shawncd 2003-10-07 18:14:52 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise Jon Elson 2003-10-07 22:56:57 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise Jon Elson 2003-10-07 23:10:46 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise dan 2003-10-08 09:58:56 UTC Low cost Servo drives +/-10V analog....and Camsoft. Shawncd 2003-10-08 18:30:09 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Low cost Servo drives +/-10V analog....and Camsoft. Shawncd 2003-10-08 19:01:03 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Low cost Servo drives +/-10V analog....and Camsoft. Jon Elson 2003-10-15 09:45:25 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise k8zre 2003-10-15 16:55:10 UTC Re: Servo Dynamics 1525 servo drive noise