Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal

Hold up here. Pin numbers are different on the 9 pin AT comm port. I will
make up a crossref tomorrow at work.

I think 9 pin serial mice use just 2, 3, 7 equivlent 9 pin numbers. so thats
why it worked with 2-3 jumpered.

Next step I would do is jumper 4-5 and 6-8-20 on the indexer and connect 2
and 3 up. If no response then reverse 2 and 3 at the indexer and try again.

If no response then you need a LED status block so you can see what the
status of 2 and 3 are.

do you know the baud, data bits, stop bits and parity that the Indexer is
set for? HyperTerm must be set the same for any hope of communicating.

You have made some progress as we know that the loopback works.Signing off
tonight but will be back off and on tomorrow. Where are you located?? I am
in Quincy, IL 100 miles north of St. Louis.

Hugh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Eyben" <abeyben@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal


>
> OK, I've just hooked it up to a 9pin conn and win2k box. I'm now using
HyperTerminal that comes with windows.
> I connected 2 and 3 together and received double character returns in the
terminal window so output seems to be working now.
> I tried X-on/X-off setting.
> I tried switching 2 and 3 into the terminal block on the indexer.
> I get no reply to my queries which I typed very carefully copied from the
manual.
> I'm only working with 3 wires on the indexer end, and I didn't find any
software switches regarding handshaking. Which pins need to
> be jumpered to disable it?
> I'll try the 4-5 and 6-8-20 jumpered to the PC port tomorrow. The
connector I'm using (cut the wire off an old mouse) doesn't have
> wires for all of the pins(molded conn)
> Thanks again,
> Brad
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hugh Prescott" <hugh345@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal
>
>
> >
> > It should but you need the 4-5 and 6-8-20 on the pc side or the com port
> > will not be OK to tx/rx data.
> >
> > The Indexer may or may not need the extra jumpers.
> >
> > If the indexer only uses 2, 3,7 then the comm protocal may neex X-ON /
X-Off
> > enabled.
> >
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad Eyben" <abeyben@...>
> > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal
> >
> >
> > >
> > > As I'm only using pins 2,3, and 7, would this work if I just jumpered
2
> > and 3?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Brad
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hugh Prescott" <hugh345@...>
> > > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:19 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > To check your cable out and back and the qmodem program make up a
> > connector
> > > > that plugs into the end of the cable. Jumper pins 2 to 3, pins 4 to
5
> > and
> > > > pins 6-8-20. Three separate jumpers. This is called a loop back
plug.
> > > >
> > > > Start the qmodem program and start typing. You should see what you
type.
> > If
> > > > you see double, two characters of what ever you type, turn echo off.
> > > >
> > > > If OK so far find an Idiot block (little block with several LEDs on
it
> > that
> > > > plugs into the end of the modem cable that lets you see the status
of
> > each
> > > > line).
> > > >
> > > > Plug in the loop back to see what it looks like. Then remove the
loop
> > back
> > > > and plug it into the indexer. First check to see if pin 2 and 3 are
> > lite. If
> > > > not you probably hace a DTE / DCE mismatch and need to cross pins 2
and
> > 3 in
> > > > one end of the cable. Try again and see if both LED 2 and 3 light
up.
> > You
> > > > may also need to cross 4-5 and 6-8 keeping 8 and 20 together.
> > > >
> > > > The LEDs will not tell you if your baud, data, parity and stop bits
are
> > set
> > > > wrong but will tell you if you have the signal lines hooked up
properly.
> > > >
> > > > Ask for more help with RS-232 standard communications if needed.
> > > >
> > > > Blindly figuring out RS-232 is not for the faint of heart.
> > > >
> > > > Hugh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Chuck Rice" <Chuck@...>
> > > > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Cc: "Brad Eyben" <abeyben@...>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:48 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 5:36 PM -0700 11/1/04, Brad Eyben wrote:
> > > > > >Hello,
> > > > > >I'm trying to communicate with an API315 indexer drive in order
to
> > > > > >set up the in/out pins which are configurable.
> > > > > >I've never used a terminal program, The only computer I have with
a
> > > > > >serial port that will fit the connector is running DOS only and
I'm
> > > > > >lost.
> > > > > >Would some kind person here help?
> > > > > >I've been able to install the program Qmodem as recommended in
the
> > > > > >manual, I've plugged it into the drive and fired up the software.
It
> > > > > >says I'm online but I'm unable to type anything into the terminal
> > > > > >window.
> > > > > >I've also used the MODE command to configure COM1 as requested.
> > > > > >How can I check to see if the PC is transmitting over the cable
or
> > > > > >if the drive is responding.
> > > > > >At this point I have no idea where to start. Seems like something
> > > > > >outa the 80's.
> > > > > >Also, if I go to split window, it lets me type commands but
nothing
> > > > > >happens when I push enter.
> > > > > >The program is made by Mustang Software but I can't find a site
for
> > > > > >them. All the links are dead.
> > > > > >Thanks for any help.
> > > > > >Brad
> > > > >
> > > > > Generally with a serial port program, you need to set
> > > > >
> > > > > Data bits/Parity/stop bits/speed
> > > > >
> > > > > So somewhere it should tell you something like:
> > > > >
> > > > > 8-E-1 9600
> > > > >
> > > > > That means you need to set your terminal program up to use
> > > > >
> > > > > 8 data bits
> > > > > Even parity
> > > > > 1 stop bit
> > > > > 9600 bits per second
> > > > >
> > > > > There is also something called Echo. You need to turn Echo on if
the
> > > > > device is not designed to echo what you send to it back. Generally
> > > > > you start with echo on, and if you start getting double characters
> > > > > back when you type, turn it back off.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another thing you need to check is your cable. just because the
pins
> > > > > match does not mean that you have the correct cable. It has been
too
> > > > > long for me to remember, but one cable type is for DTE (Data
Terminal
> > > > > Equipment I think) and the other is for DCE (or something like
that).
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry I do not remember more, but it has been a long time. Web
> > > > > searches on some of the terms above might prove helpful. -Chuck-
> > > > >
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