Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal

I can't jumper anything but 2 and 3 on the indexer as there are only 3 inputs (TX RV GRD) and it is not a DB connector...just 3
screw terminals.
I can jumper these pins on the PC but I have to pick up a proper DB9 connector to get access to the pins.
However, if it is sending and receiving on pins 2 and 3, then isn't that all we need?
I'm in Edmonton, AB Canada
Thanks for your help.
Brad
PS that would be great if you could stop by ;).

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hugh Prescott" <hugh345@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal


>
> Hold up here. Pin numbers are different on the 9 pin AT comm port. I will
> make up a crossref tomorrow at work.
>
> I think 9 pin serial mice use just 2, 3, 7 equivlent 9 pin numbers. so thats
> why it worked with 2-3 jumpered.
>
> Next step I would do is jumper 4-5 and 6-8-20 on the indexer and connect 2
> and 3 up. If no response then reverse 2 and 3 at the indexer and try again.
>
> If no response then you need a LED status block so you can see what the
> status of 2 and 3 are.
>
> do you know the baud, data bits, stop bits and parity that the Indexer is
> set for? HyperTerm must be set the same for any hope of communicating.
>
> You have made some progress as we know that the loopback works.Signing off
> tonight but will be back off and on tomorrow. Where are you located?? I am
> in Quincy, IL 100 miles north of St. Louis.
>
> Hugh
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Eyben" <abeyben@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal
>
>
> >
> > OK, I've just hooked it up to a 9pin conn and win2k box. I'm now using
> HyperTerminal that comes with windows.
> > I connected 2 and 3 together and received double character returns in the
> terminal window so output seems to be working now.
> > I tried X-on/X-off setting.
> > I tried switching 2 and 3 into the terminal block on the indexer.
> > I get no reply to my queries which I typed very carefully copied from the
> manual.
> > I'm only working with 3 wires on the indexer end, and I didn't find any
> software switches regarding handshaking. Which pins need to
> > be jumpered to disable it?
> > I'll try the 4-5 and 6-8-20 jumpered to the PC port tomorrow. The
> connector I'm using (cut the wire off an old mouse) doesn't have
> > wires for all of the pins(molded conn)
> > Thanks again,
> > Brad
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hugh Prescott" <hugh345@...>
> > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It should but you need the 4-5 and 6-8-20 on the pc side or the com port
> > > will not be OK to tx/rx data.
> > >
> > > The Indexer may or may not need the extra jumpers.
> > >
> > > If the indexer only uses 2, 3,7 then the comm protocal may neex X-ON /
> X-Off
> > > enabled.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hugh
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brad Eyben" <abeyben@...>
> > > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > As I'm only using pins 2,3, and 7, would this work if I just jumpered
> 2
> > > and 3?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Brad
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Hugh Prescott" <hugh345@...>
> > > > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:19 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To check your cable out and back and the qmodem program make up a
> > > connector
> > > > > that plugs into the end of the cable. Jumper pins 2 to 3, pins 4 to
> 5
> > > and
> > > > > pins 6-8-20. Three separate jumpers. This is called a loop back
> plug.
> > > > >
> > > > > Start the qmodem program and start typing. You should see what you
> type.
> > > If
> > > > > you see double, two characters of what ever you type, turn echo off.
> > > > >
> > > > > If OK so far find an Idiot block (little block with several LEDs on
> it
> > > that
> > > > > plugs into the end of the modem cable that lets you see the status
> of
> > > each
> > > > > line).
> > > > >
> > > > > Plug in the loop back to see what it looks like. Then remove the
> loop
> > > back
> > > > > and plug it into the indexer. First check to see if pin 2 and 3 are
> > > lite. If
> > > > > not you probably hace a DTE / DCE mismatch and need to cross pins 2
> and
> > > 3 in
> > > > > one end of the cable. Try again and see if both LED 2 and 3 light
> up.
> > > You
> > > > > may also need to cross 4-5 and 6-8 keeping 8 and 20 together.
> > > > >
> > > > > The LEDs will not tell you if your baud, data, parity and stop bits
> are
> > > set
> > > > > wrong but will tell you if you have the signal lines hooked up
> properly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ask for more help with RS-232 standard communications if needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Blindly figuring out RS-232 is not for the faint of heart.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hugh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Chuck Rice" <Chuck@...>
> > > > > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Cc: "Brad Eyben" <abeyben@...>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:48 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Qmodem terminal
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 5:36 PM -0700 11/1/04, Brad Eyben wrote:
> > > > > > >Hello,
> > > > > > >I'm trying to communicate with an API315 indexer drive in order
> to
> > > > > > >set up the in/out pins which are configurable.
> > > > > > >I've never used a terminal program, The only computer I have with
> a
> > > > > > >serial port that will fit the connector is running DOS only and
> I'm
> > > > > > >lost.
> > > > > > >Would some kind person here help?
> > > > > > >I've been able to install the program Qmodem as recommended in
> the
> > > > > > >manual, I've plugged it into the drive and fired up the software.
> It
> > > > > > >says I'm online but I'm unable to type anything into the terminal
> > > > > > >window.
> > > > > > >I've also used the MODE command to configure COM1 as requested.
> > > > > > >How can I check to see if the PC is transmitting over the cable
> or
> > > > > > >if the drive is responding.
> > > > > > >At this point I have no idea where to start. Seems like something
> > > > > > >outa the 80's.
> > > > > > >Also, if I go to split window, it lets me type commands but
> nothing
> > > > > > >happens when I push enter.
> > > > > > >The program is made by Mustang Software but I can't find a site
> for
> > > > > > >them. All the links are dead.
> > > > > > >Thanks for any help.
> > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Generally with a serial port program, you need to set
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Data bits/Parity/stop bits/speed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So somewhere it should tell you something like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 8-E-1 9600
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That means you need to set your terminal program up to use
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 8 data bits
> > > > > > Even parity
> > > > > > 1 stop bit
> > > > > > 9600 bits per second
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is also something called Echo. You need to turn Echo on if
> the
> > > > > > device is not designed to echo what you send to it back. Generally
> > > > > > you start with echo on, and if you start getting double characters
> > > > > > back when you type, turn it back off.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another thing you need to check is your cable. just because the
> pins
> > > > > > match does not mean that you have the correct cable. It has been
> too
> > > > > > long for me to remember, but one cable type is for DTE (Data
> Terminal
> > > > > > Equipment I think) and the other is for DCE (or something like
> that).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry I do not remember more, but it has been a long time. Web
> > > > > > searches on some of the terms above might prove helpful. -Chuck-
> > > > > >
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