Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: BOSS Retrofit...Little details

on 2005-02-13 05:53:42 UTC

The plastic covered metal flexible conduit. The axies dont move all that much. If you look at the sweep of the conduit and the amount the table moves, it's hardly moving at all. The axies have more them enough power to bend it.

Ron

cnc_4_me <cnc4me@...> wrote:

> Wally, Its Ron not Roy..haha I'm a machinist, not a singing cowboy.

Hardy har har, that was funny!!!

But on the sealtight issue, are you sure you are using the plastic
covered metal type and not just plastic seal tight, there is both
types. The plastic covered metal really seemed stiff to me.

Wally

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, R Rogers
wrote:

> Wally, Its Ron not Roy..haha I'm a machinist, not a singing cowboy.

On the series 1 I'm using just regular seal-tite, Flexible conduit
with a plastic covering. Also called liquid tite. It moves with the
table and works fine. The same thing was on the machine before for 20
some years. Its very durable. It would take alot of movement to wear
it out. Been using it for two years and it holds up fine. The
convoluted one-piece conduit would not work.

>
> Ron
>
> Denis Casserly wrote:
>
> If there's no motion, then sealtite is probably the right choice
> Denis
> On February 11, 2005 09:43 pm, cnc_4_me wrote:
> > > By the way, on a BOSS machine, none of the wires move. So wires
> > > moving around is not a concern.
> > >
> > > -Brady
> >
> > If roy,s bridgeport is a boss machine that would explain how
> > sealtight worked..
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "braidmeister"
> >
> >
> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the tip.
> > >
> > > By the way, on a BOSS machine, none of the wires move. So wires
> > > moving around is not a concern.
> > >
> > > -Brady
> > >
> > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Denis Casserly
> >
> >
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > You might want to check out the cable offerings from Igus.
> >
> > They've
> >
> > > got 5 times
> > >
> > > > bend radius servo and enconder cables that are shielded and
> > >
> > > unshielded and no
> > >
> > > > minumum order also. Olfex is another source but the Igus line

> > >
> > > far superior
> > >
> > > > IMHO.
> > > > cheers
> > > > Denis
> > > >
> > > > On February 10, 2005 08:09 pm, R Rogers wrote:
> > > > > cnc_4_me wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If your mill came with limit switches they should be

ok...Mach2

> > >
> > > can
> > >
> > > > > use NO or NC...As for the motor wire, i looked at jameco's

web

> > >
> > > site
> > >
> > > > > and could not find anything suitable...I have been looking

for

> > >
> > > motor
> > >
> > > > > wire myself. So far all i can find is $3 per foot

stuff...The

> > > > > minimum wire size you want to go with is 14, good for 15

amps.

> >
> > 12
> >
> > > > > guage would take you to 20 amps. 10 guage 30 amp...And yes
> > >
> > > shielded
> > >
> > > > > is very good idea. You also need fine stranding to...
> > > > >
> > > > > For a example of very good wire oil resistant, fine strand,
> > >
> > > shielded,
> > >
> > > > > go to alphawire.com
> > > > > http://www.alphawire.com/pages/91.cfm
> > > > > the cable on this page is about $3 foot from wire

distributor.

> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Wally
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > /// I think 1/2" or 3/8" seal-tite is cheaper then just run

2 -

> >
> > 14
> >
> > > ga
> > >
> > > > > stranded inside. Its alot more durable. Can't run the

encoder

> > >
> > > wires in it
> > >
> > > > > though. Found this out the hard way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "braidmeister"
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I've pretty much nailed down the motors, drivers and

software

> > >
> > > for
> > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > conversion. Aside from the power supply, that should

pretty

> >
> > much
> >
> > > > > > cover the hardware end of things ~ except for a few

lingering

> > > > > > questions I have on some details:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Aside from the spindle motor power supply, what else

do I

> > >
> > > need
> > >
> > > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > retain in regards to the spindle for the conversion? Are

there

> > > > > > electronics that handle the lubrication of the spindle? I

> >
> > not
> >
> > > > > > interested in changing the spindle motor or mechanical

speed

> > > > >
> > > > > control.
> > > > >
> > > > > > It works fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Limit switches...I will be running Mach2. Do I need to
> >
> > swap
> >
> > > out
> > >
> > > > > > the limit switches, add switches or rewire them at all?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. Bijur way luber...I haven't really run the machine

enough

> >
> > to
> >
> > > > > test
> > > > >
> > > > > > out the lube pump to see if it is working or

not...According

> >
> > to
> >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > > manual, I should be able to pull up on the plunger to

prime

> > > > >
> > > > > it...well
> > > > >
> > > > > > it doesn't pull up. It unscrews and that's about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway...getting
> > > > >
> > > > > > back to the electrical aspects of the pump. What do I

need to

> > >
> > > keep?
> > >
> > > > > ~
> > > > >
> > > > > > What gets canned?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4. Motor power cables....I was thinking of the Belden

line of

> > > > > > shielded cable from Jameco. Good/bad/cheaper somewhere

else?

> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's a list of the components so far:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.5HP PMDC motors (will post specs later when it's

running)

> > > > > > Rutex R990H servo drives
> > > > > > Rutex 990MB motherboard
> > > > > > Rutex 990IO relay card
> > > > > > USDigital E3 1000CPR encoders + cables etc
> > > > > > Mach2/3 PC controller
> > > > > > BOSS 75v PS (modified or new one from scratch)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I missing anything? Suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > -Brady
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