RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] where's the torque ?
Posted by
Andy Wander
on 2005-05-16 09:46:50 UTC
Dave:
The "inches" in "ounce-inches" are related to the moment arm(or radius), NOT
the circumference.
A 296 oz-in motor will supply 296 ounces of force at a 1" radius. When used
with a 1.25" pitch diameter gear(I think this is what you were saying) it
will have a 0.625" radius(center of rotation to the pitch diameter circle),
so it will supply 296/0.625= 473 ounces of force at this radius.
Andy Wander
Verrex Corporation
-----Original Message-----
From: turbulatordude [mailto:dave_mucha@...]
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 12:08 PM
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Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] where's the torque ?
I've been running thru the torque numbers for motors and seem to be
missing something.
A 1-1/2hp treadmill motor with 5,100 RPM has 296 oz-in torque.
On a rack and pinion. and using a 1.25" pitch, we can round the
distance per gear rotation to 4 inches. 1.25*pi=3.926, so 4 is close
enough.
When we calculate for a leadscrew, we come back to inches of table
movement. do we also do that for routers ?
I mean that we put on a 600oz-in motor, then multiply that by 5TPI to
get 3,000 OZ-IN that would mean 3,000 per inch, no ?
That would make the motor 296/4=74 oz-in if it were direct drive.
using 6:1 pulleys would then multiply that up to 444 oz-in. or 444 per
inch ?
The leadscrew moves 1 inch per 5 motor rev or 0.2" per rev while the
rack moves 1.5 revs per in. Gearing up to get 5 rev's per inch would
mean a 20:1 pulley to the 1:4 rack gear. If course that would
multiply the 296 by 5 for 1,482oz-in.
Since I've seen routers and plasma cutter run with much smaller motors
and much smaller ratios (3:1 on a 350 oz-in stepper) it seems I'm
missing something.
Anyone see my mistakes or what I've overlooked ?
Dave
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The "inches" in "ounce-inches" are related to the moment arm(or radius), NOT
the circumference.
A 296 oz-in motor will supply 296 ounces of force at a 1" radius. When used
with a 1.25" pitch diameter gear(I think this is what you were saying) it
will have a 0.625" radius(center of rotation to the pitch diameter circle),
so it will supply 296/0.625= 473 ounces of force at this radius.
Andy Wander
Verrex Corporation
-----Original Message-----
From: turbulatordude [mailto:dave_mucha@...]
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 12:08 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] where's the torque ?
I've been running thru the torque numbers for motors and seem to be
missing something.
A 1-1/2hp treadmill motor with 5,100 RPM has 296 oz-in torque.
On a rack and pinion. and using a 1.25" pitch, we can round the
distance per gear rotation to 4 inches. 1.25*pi=3.926, so 4 is close
enough.
When we calculate for a leadscrew, we come back to inches of table
movement. do we also do that for routers ?
I mean that we put on a 600oz-in motor, then multiply that by 5TPI to
get 3,000 OZ-IN that would mean 3,000 per inch, no ?
That would make the motor 296/4=74 oz-in if it were direct drive.
using 6:1 pulleys would then multiply that up to 444 oz-in. or 444 per
inch ?
The leadscrew moves 1 inch per 5 motor rev or 0.2" per rev while the
rack moves 1.5 revs per in. Gearing up to get 5 rev's per inch would
mean a 20:1 pulley to the 1:4 rack gear. If course that would
multiply the 296 by 5 for 1,482oz-in.
Since I've seen routers and plasma cutter run with much smaller motors
and much smaller ratios (3:1 on a 350 oz-in stepper) it seems I'm
missing something.
Anyone see my mistakes or what I've overlooked ?
Dave
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Discussion Thread
turbulatordude
2005-05-16 09:09:48 UTC
where's the torque ?
Andy Wander
2005-05-16 09:46:50 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] where's the torque ?
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2005-05-16 10:06:46 UTC
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