Re: Geckodrive
Posted by
lcdpublishing
on 2006-05-01 05:57:20 UTC
Mariss, this isn't making any sense, but I think it has to do with
what you call a stall and what I call a stall.
To me, a motor is stalled when it no longer rotates. Are you saying
that your GREX device will keep that motor moving no matter what?
Now unless you have magic powers, this isn't possible. Which makes
me think that your interpretation of stall is different than mine.
Based on your description below, it appears as though the drive will
slow down the velocity in hopes that the greater torque at low speed
will overcome the load and allow the motor to rotate again.
However, at some point, there will be a load in excess of what the
drive/motor can overcome - resulting in a stalled (Stopped) motor.
Does the GREX then fault or what is planned for this condition?
Thanks
Chris
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mariss Freimanis"
<mariss92705@...> wrote:
what you call a stall and what I call a stall.
To me, a motor is stalled when it no longer rotates. Are you saying
that your GREX device will keep that motor moving no matter what?
Now unless you have magic powers, this isn't possible. Which makes
me think that your interpretation of stall is different than mine.
Based on your description below, it appears as though the drive will
slow down the velocity in hopes that the greater torque at low speed
will overcome the load and allow the motor to rotate again.
However, at some point, there will be a load in excess of what the
drive/motor can overcome - resulting in a stalled (Stopped) motor.
Does the GREX then fault or what is planned for this condition?
Thanks
Chris
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mariss Freimanis"
<mariss92705@...> wrote:
>field
> No, the motor does not stall. It is prevented from doing that by
> monitoring the lag angle and decelerating the rotating magnetic
> to prevent it from getting more than 1.8 degrees ahead of therotor.
>does,
> The net effect is the motor slows down under heavy load. As it
> more torque is available as speed drops until a "balance point" isbalance
> found where available torque equals load torque.
>
> Relieve the load torque and the motor accelerates until a new
> point is found.summing
>
> The lead/lag angle register is analogous to the position error
> node in a classic servo. A step pulse increments this register,the
> encoder count decrements it. The contents of this register isinput to
> a PID algorithm; the PID algorithm output then modifies the steppulse
> rate to keep the summing node at a desired constant value.motor's "stiffness".
>
> The lead/lag register also is used to increase the
>a
> An open-loop step motor has +/- 1.8 degrees of stiffness. In fact,
> step motor only delivers its rated holding torque when its shaftis
> displaced 1.8 degrees from its no-load position. The servoedresponse
> is to "step into" the load, canceling this error. A 500-lineencoder
> gives a 10-fold increase in stiffness over an open-loop step motor.the
>
>
> Mariss
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
> <lcdpublishing@> wrote:
> >
> > Okay, so the motor still stalls like any other stepper system.
> > However, it tolerates the stall and provides feedback to the
> > controlling software which would allow for a recovery if in fact
> > problem causing the stall is self-correcting?performance
> >
> > It sounds neat, yet impossible at the same time. Either way, it
> > sounds like it has the potential of allowing higher speed
> > from stepper systems. Perhaps I should look at this as if itwere in
> > an adaptive control system and it would make more sense.
> >
> > Sounds cool guys.
> >
>
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