Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Comments from expert PID programmers?
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2006-08-05 12:53:07 UTC
Peter Reilley wrote:
that the cutting forces can grab the table away from the CNC
control for the distance of the backlash, which can be a REAL
problem, I just don't think that software can fix, after the fact,
that there is a loss of connection between the CNC control and
the table position. You can try all you want to "mask" the backlash,
but it will still rear its ugly head from time to time, and mar the parts
you are trying to make. Best solution is to minimize the backlash
at the very beginning of machine construction.
Jon
>A more mathematical answer is that backlash representsI'm pretty much in agreement with you, Pete. Even neglecting
>a step function in the control loop. A step function
>contains frequency elements from DC to infinity.
>You simply cannot create a compensating control
>function in the real world that handle that wide
>a frequency range.
>
>
>
that the cutting forces can grab the table away from the CNC
control for the distance of the backlash, which can be a REAL
problem, I just don't think that software can fix, after the fact,
that there is a loss of connection between the CNC control and
the table position. You can try all you want to "mask" the backlash,
but it will still rear its ugly head from time to time, and mar the parts
you are trying to make. Best solution is to minimize the backlash
at the very beginning of machine construction.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Dennis Schmitz
2006-08-04 20:56:09 UTC
Comments from expert PID programmers?
Jon Elson
2006-08-04 22:04:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Comments from expert PID programmers?
Dennis Schmitz
2006-08-04 23:30:55 UTC
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Graham Stabler
2006-08-05 03:16:46 UTC
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Peter Reilley
2006-08-05 06:22:37 UTC
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caudlet
2006-08-05 07:15:53 UTC
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Phil Mattison
2006-08-05 11:40:01 UTC
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ballendo
2006-08-05 11:49:16 UTC
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ballendo
2006-08-05 12:07:55 UTC
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Jon Elson
2006-08-05 12:50:02 UTC
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Jon Elson
2006-08-05 12:53:07 UTC
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Phil Mattison
2006-08-05 13:37:39 UTC
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KelingInc
2006-08-05 15:42:40 UTC
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wthomas@g...
2006-08-06 11:15:41 UTC
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BobWarfield
2006-08-07 16:07:08 UTC
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Ron Kline
2006-08-07 17:41:54 UTC
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ballendo
2006-08-07 18:07:22 UTC
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2006-08-07 18:28:24 UTC
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Ron Kline
2006-08-07 19:26:14 UTC
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Dennis Schmitz
2006-08-08 06:26:21 UTC
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