Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: LARGE DC MOTOR speed control question
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2000-07-17 15:26:04 UTC
Mariss Freimanis wrote:
magnetically multiplying the instantaneous voltage times the
instantaneous
current. So, poor power factor, either due to reactive current or
non-linear
loads, do not affect power meters ability to read real power only.
Now, big energy users DO get charged by power factor and peak usage.
Our University is charged for an entire year based on the highest usage
of any 15 minute period within the year. They have a VERY fancy
electric
meter, which makes 2 cassette tapes, which are in a sealed and locked
vault, and are opened every so-and-so period when the tapes are changed,
under the observation of a Univerity official and a power company
official.
One tape is for us, one for the power company. There is a correction
for
power factor, but I don't know exactly how that is billed.
Jon
> One thing you might want to take into account is the lousy powerThat's why I suggested one about 1/5 the first value.
> factor on the 120 VAC line with this large of a capacitor. All the
> current drawn would occur very near the top of each line half cycle
> and could easily exceed 100 Amps per pulse.
> My understanding is electric meters "charge" you for a poor powerStandard home meters do NOT do that. they read real power draw, by
> factor load, which in this case would look like a 100 Amp draw
> instead of a 17 Amp one.
magnetically multiplying the instantaneous voltage times the
instantaneous
current. So, poor power factor, either due to reactive current or
non-linear
loads, do not affect power meters ability to read real power only.
Now, big energy users DO get charged by power factor and peak usage.
Our University is charged for an entire year based on the highest usage
of any 15 minute period within the year. They have a VERY fancy
electric
meter, which makes 2 cassette tapes, which are in a sealed and locked
vault, and are opened every so-and-so period when the tapes are changed,
under the observation of a Univerity official and a power company
official.
One tape is for us, one for the power company. There is a correction
for
power factor, but I don't know exactly how that is billed.
>So, my 5,000 uF wasn't too far off.
> A 10% ripple voltage is more reasonable from a power factor point of
> view. Use this equation for calculating capacitor size for 10% ripple
> at rated current:
>
> C = ( I * 80,000 ) / V
>
> Where C is in microfarads, I is the current you want and V is your
> power supply voltage. For your case the result would be 8,000 uF.
> Use 200 VDC rated capacitors minimum.
Jon
Discussion Thread
wanliker@a...
2000-07-15 11:28:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: LARGE DC MOTOR speed control question
Derek B.
2000-07-15 11:29:08 UTC
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2000-07-15 11:41:42 UTC
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Derek B.
2000-07-15 14:40:33 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: LARGE DC MOTOR speed control question
Jon Elson
2000-07-15 22:30:33 UTC
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STAN MCDONALD
2000-07-16 06:43:46 UTC
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2000-07-16 09:23:28 UTC
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Jon Elson
2000-07-17 11:52:15 UTC
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STAN MCDONALD
2000-07-17 14:12:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: LARGE DC MOTOR speed control question
Mariss Freimanis
2000-07-17 14:23:05 UTC
Re: LARGE DC MOTOR speed control question
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2000-07-17 15:19:24 UTC
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Jon Elson
2000-07-17 15:26:04 UTC
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Jon Elson
2000-07-17 15:36:57 UTC
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2000-07-17 15:41:42 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2000-07-17 17:04:27 UTC
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2000-07-17 17:37:37 UTC
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