Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
    Posted by
    
      Stephen Wille Padnos
    
  
  
    on 2009-07-28 19:10:32 UTC
  
  Peter Mack wrote:
As far as I know, the output from the chinese scales is in a serial data
format, and it only gets updated a few times a second (maybe between 10
and 100 times). Each update contains the new position, which could be
many "steps" away from the previous position. So what the
microcontroller sees is position A, then A+delta. It then has to output
enough quadrature pulses to make the DRO display change by "delta". So
a question arises - how fast do you output those pulses?
You would need to have settings for input scaling (how big is a unit
from the sensor scale?), output scaling (how big is one encoder tick?),
and how fast the DRO can accept quadrature state changes.
It's doable for a specific scale/DRO combination, but I imagine a
product to do it would be more complex, since it would need to handle a
range of settings. (and of course I haven't even mentioned the math to
convert between units - it's not too hard, but it's not trivial in a
microcontroller either). And then you would have people who think they
could use this product for servo feedback (they can't). :)
- Steve
>Thanks David,I think it might be kind of not-so-simple.
>
>Unfortunately Mitutoyo use their own output which is unlike the common chinese output.
>
>Still looking. I know the process of reading and processing the output of the scales has been well and truly sorted out by many people, it's just the step of converting the numbers out of the Chinese device into quadrature output pulses that needs doing.
>
>To my limited knowledge of electronics and microprocessors this appears a pretty simple extra step. It surprises me it's so hard to find a previous example.
>
>
As far as I know, the output from the chinese scales is in a serial data
format, and it only gets updated a few times a second (maybe between 10
and 100 times). Each update contains the new position, which could be
many "steps" away from the previous position. So what the
microcontroller sees is position A, then A+delta. It then has to output
enough quadrature pulses to make the DRO display change by "delta". So
a question arises - how fast do you output those pulses?
You would need to have settings for input scaling (how big is a unit
from the sensor scale?), output scaling (how big is one encoder tick?),
and how fast the DRO can accept quadrature state changes.
It's doable for a specific scale/DRO combination, but I imagine a
product to do it would be more complex, since it would need to handle a
range of settings. (and of course I haven't even mentioned the math to
convert between units - it's not too hard, but it's not trivial in a
microcontroller either). And then you would have people who think they
could use this product for servo feedback (they can't). :)
- Steve
Discussion Thread
  
    Peter Mack
  
2009-07-27 22:03:03 UTC
  Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    dgoadby
  
2009-07-28 05:23:25 UTC
  Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    dgoadby
  
2009-07-28 05:24:39 UTC
  Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    cafeagle
  
2009-07-28 10:54:58 UTC
  Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    Roland Jollivet
  
2009-07-28 17:33:34 UTC
  Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    Peter Mack
  
2009-07-28 18:43:40 UTC
  Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    Peter Mack
  
2009-07-28 18:54:16 UTC
  Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    Stephen Wille Padnos
  
2009-07-28 19:10:32 UTC
  Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    Peter Mack
  
2009-07-29 05:24:46 UTC
  Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    dgoadby
  
2009-07-29 05:38:47 UTC
  Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    Wayne Patterson
  
2009-07-29 12:59:06 UTC
  Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    Alfredo Sola
  
2009-07-31 15:38:59 UTC
  Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    Peter Mack
  
2009-08-07 05:14:09 UTC
  Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion
  
    Geoff
  
2009-08-09 01:29:02 UTC
  Re: Chinese to Quadrature conversion