Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
Posted by
Alan Marconett KM6VV
on 2001-03-22 11:52:56 UTC
Ballendo,
That's true! I was only thinking about the step rate required out of
the controller. Might be a good experiment to determine if half (or
even quarter?) stepping actually does reduce the resonance problems on
our hardware. I never cared for half steps before, due to the unequal
torque between steps (from what I understand). Seems to be useful in
our applications!
One of your previous post's to Ian (a keeper!) was Re: "faster stepper"
(snip below), and had an EXCELLENT description of stepper resonance
effects. However I'm a little curious about being able to see the
STEPPER "ringing" (overshoot, resonance's..) you describe on a SCOPE?
The "ringing bell" is exactly what I'd expect to see in a resonant
circuit all right. Are you talking about actually seeing these
waveforms on the drive currents to the coils?
Alan KM6VV (just curious)
ballendo@... wrote:
That's true! I was only thinking about the step rate required out of
the controller. Might be a good experiment to determine if half (or
even quarter?) stepping actually does reduce the resonance problems on
our hardware. I never cared for half steps before, due to the unequal
torque between steps (from what I understand). Seems to be useful in
our applications!
One of your previous post's to Ian (a keeper!) was Re: "faster stepper"
(snip below), and had an EXCELLENT description of stepper resonance
effects. However I'm a little curious about being able to see the
STEPPER "ringing" (overshoot, resonance's..) you describe on a SCOPE?
The "ringing bell" is exactly what I'd expect to see in a resonant
circuit all right. Are you talking about actually seeing these
waveforms on the drive currents to the coils?
Alan KM6VV (just curious)
ballendo@... wrote:
>ballendo@... wrote:
> Alan,
>
> Not always! Sometimes the reduction in "ringing" brought about by
> half-stepping cancels out the gains made by full stepping...
>
> Ballendo
>
> >Or if you have excess resolution, shifting to full step from
> >half step would give you a higher top end.
> >Alan M
>
> The rotor magnet/coil combination inside the stepper has overshoot
> and settling during its' operation (since it is a magnetic FIELD that
> is doing the pushing/pulling; no defined machanical link). This is
> known as "ringing". Look at it on a scope and it looks similar to the
> output from a ringing bell.
Discussion Thread
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-21 11:09:24 UTC
Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
ballendo@y...
2001-03-22 08:18:17 UTC
Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-22 11:52:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
Jon Elson
2001-03-22 12:20:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
mariss92705@y...
2001-03-22 13:17:49 UTC
Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-22 14:48:33 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-22 15:41:45 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-03-22 16:00:30 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-03-22 16:07:10 UTC
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ballendo@y...
2001-03-22 16:24:59 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-22 18:12:37 UTC
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mariss92705@y...
2001-03-22 18:16:15 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-22 18:16:16 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-22 18:58:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
ballendo@y...
2001-03-22 19:52:53 UTC
Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
Jon Elson
2001-03-22 21:40:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-23 17:48:22 UTC
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mariss92705@y...
2001-03-23 18:14:24 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-03-23 21:03:51 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-03-23 21:19:07 UTC
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mariss92705@y...
2001-03-23 23:33:18 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-24 10:32:55 UTC
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Jon Anderson
2001-03-24 11:16:46 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-24 11:23:30 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-24 13:25:52 UTC
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William Scalione
2001-03-24 15:06:07 UTC
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Jon Anderson
2001-03-24 15:19:01 UTC
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mariss92705@y...
2001-03-24 15:51:46 UTC
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Ian Wright
2001-03-24 16:28:16 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2001-03-24 16:45:13 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-03-24 20:31:21 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-03-24 20:36:45 UTC
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Jon Anderson
2001-03-24 20:53:56 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-03-24 21:00:50 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-25 14:03:13 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-25 15:04:10 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-25 15:08:49 UTC
Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
Jon Anderson
2001-03-25 16:23:44 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-25 17:12:24 UTC
Re: Going home / more stepper speed!
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-03-25 17:33:12 UTC
Re: Going home / more stepper speed!