Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: How to go from 2.5 D to real 3 D ??
Posted by
Chris L
on 2001-11-23 22:38:14 UTC
Howdy Art,
Well this stuff boggles my mind............ Someday I hope to try some simple
programming. What you are doing seems pretty indepth.
I am a bit amazed when I think back a few years to the early days of Windows CNC
control. It was an incredibly challenging thing with many saying it was just
impossible.
I find it quite interesting that you have been able to pull this off without an
external timing chip like others have had to use.
The only thing I can relate it to is Indexer LPT as that used the timing from
the processor to send out the pulses but really was a tsr, with a Windows GUI
initiating it. Indexer had run very smooth, and very "In Windows" short of no
G-Code interface. Do you have any idea why others have not used this same
technique ? As I recall they had a pretty high pulse rate initially. That pulse
rate grew substantially with the current version.
Some that I have been chitchatting with, have pointed out that your control is
pretty impressive. Make sure that it is on a Sherline at NAMES next year so Fred
can run a test on it.
Art Fenerty wrote:
Well this stuff boggles my mind............ Someday I hope to try some simple
programming. What you are doing seems pretty indepth.
I am a bit amazed when I think back a few years to the early days of Windows CNC
control. It was an incredibly challenging thing with many saying it was just
impossible.
I find it quite interesting that you have been able to pull this off without an
external timing chip like others have had to use.
The only thing I can relate it to is Indexer LPT as that used the timing from
the processor to send out the pulses but really was a tsr, with a Windows GUI
initiating it. Indexer had run very smooth, and very "In Windows" short of no
G-Code interface. Do you have any idea why others have not used this same
technique ? As I recall they had a pretty high pulse rate initially. That pulse
rate grew substantially with the current version.
Some that I have been chitchatting with, have pointed out that your control is
pretty impressive. Make sure that it is on a Sherline at NAMES next year so Fred
can run a test on it.
Art Fenerty wrote:
> Hi Chris:
>
> As for Master5 and line,arc differences. After doing many experiments and
> try many different methods, I kept coming back to the way EMC does it.
> (Those NIST guys are geniuses) Small segment, long segment, arcs, are pretty
> much the same thing. Basically a kinematic engine is asked the question,
> Where will each axis be in 100uSeconds? Being that the maximum speed is
> 8192Hz, the fastest an axis can pulse is 100uSeconds from the last puilse.
> So , the engine calculates whether or not a moving point on a toolpath
> specified by the G-Code will have moved or not on any axis 100uS from now.
> If so, pulse, if not, what about the next 100uS period. In this way an arc
> is just an extension of the linear toolpath and creates a constant contour
> movement. Of course acceleration, deceleration and feed speeds are kept in
> mind to calculate the next 100uS periods reach point.
> It is more complicated to calculate maximum velocities and blend
> acceleration profiles during an arc, so generally, an arc is slower to
> calculate, but runs as fast as a series of line segments when pulseing out
> of the buffers. The buffers keep the time profile clean by allowing the
> engine to slow calculations on an arc, while pulseing the line calculated
> from a few moves ago. The engine will catch up while the motors are
> decelerating or accelerating or doing straight line segments. Hence,
> constant velocity contouring.
>
> Art
> Master5 Software
> http://users.andara.com/~fenerty/master.htm
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2001-11-21 12:29:11 UTC
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2001-11-21 12:50:54 UTC
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2001-11-21 13:59:36 UTC
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2001-11-21 19:15:29 UTC
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2001-11-21 22:01:49 UTC
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2001-11-22 08:59:43 UTC
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2001-11-22 09:27:29 UTC
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2001-11-22 16:19:33 UTC
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2001-11-22 16:37:26 UTC
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2001-11-22 17:08:21 UTC
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2001-11-23 05:08:01 UTC
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Art Fenerty
2001-11-23 09:40:32 UTC
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2001-11-23 10:09:01 UTC
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2001-11-23 10:26:05 UTC
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2001-11-23 11:05:58 UTC
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2001-11-23 11:36:05 UTC
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2001-11-23 11:50:10 UTC
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2001-11-23 12:11:41 UTC
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Fred Smith
2001-11-23 13:04:55 UTC
Re: How to go from 2.5 D to real 3 D ??
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2001-11-23 13:41:19 UTC
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2001-11-23 13:49:22 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-11-23 14:40:22 UTC
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2001-11-23 15:13:55 UTC
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2001-11-23 16:37:35 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-11-23 16:49:49 UTC
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Chris L
2001-11-23 16:50:21 UTC
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Chris L
2001-11-23 17:13:49 UTC
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Fred Smith
2001-11-23 17:22:06 UTC
Re: How to go from 2.5 D to real 3 D ??
Art Fenerty
2001-11-23 19:39:41 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-11-23 21:19:28 UTC
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2001-11-23 21:30:21 UTC
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Chris L
2001-11-23 22:23:35 UTC
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Chris L
2001-11-23 22:38:14 UTC
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2001-11-24 07:00:58 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-11-24 10:18:11 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-11-24 10:49:21 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-11-24 21:58:20 UTC
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2001-11-24 21:59:42 UTC
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