RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] several items concerning the archives.

Jon,



Have you seen what happens when a list like this goes down for ? day? Do not
underestimate people's dependency on this type of service.



Buying and configuring a server is the easy part. There are many other
issues to consider. For instance:



[ Who will support the server when you are at work, on vacation, Etc.

[ Do you have backup and recovery procedure?

[ Does you computer have built in redundancy?

[ Are you on a UPS?

[ Do you have a backup system/server in the event of a system
failure?

[ How fast can you swap a new system in and recover from backups?

[ Do you know the number of concurrent users accessing the web site
or other list traffic statistics (remember web hits from curious people
wandering through)

[ Is your system sized and configured for this demand?

[ What kind of service level agreement do you have with the ADSL ISP?

[ Will the Home ADSL support this type of usage (most small business
ADSL services have traffic limitations). Most small business ADSL lines can
be easily saturated.

[ Do you have the software and skill set to fend off malicious
attacks? There will be attacks, keeping the server safe can consume a lot of
time

[ Etc.etc etc.



The requirements for a good mail list and website can go on for many pages.
I have seen a number of people and companies underestimate the effort
required. This is a large commitment.



I would hate to see this list compromised because not all of the
requirements have been considered. I enjoy the list too much.



Ken




-----Original Message-----
From: elson@... [mailto:elson@...]On Behalf Of Jon Elson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:49 AM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] several items concerning the archives.


glee@... wrote:

> There is a web forum software that I like. It is presently in use across
> the net. It is called vbulletin.
>
> I first found it through my involvement with FIRST Robotics. You can see

it

> at http://www.chiefdelphi.com Here is a link to the vendor:
> http://www.vbulletin.com/
>
> It would probably only cost a few thousand dollars to set up a capable
> server with RAID, a fast CPU and this software. After the hardware, there
> is the cost of the software licenses (Less than $500 ) and the expertise

to

> set it up. I am guessing that the company that does our linux work would
> probably charge reasonably to set this up. There may even be someone in

the

> group that is doing this presently.
>
> As a business model, I would consider hosting the group or archive on a
> dedicated box and T1 however it would have to make financial sense

T1? We're not doing 10,000 picture downloads a day, here! Mailing out
about 100,000 emails a day, tops. I've got a Linux server with Apache HTTP
server and FTP running offf my home computer on a DSL line. I think
upgrading my DSL contract to the commercial version (I think that's $99.99
a month) would be all you need to put the list online. I didn't need any
Linux consultants to set it up, and there are no software licenses, either.

Jon



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