Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
Posted by
Alan Marconett KM6VV
on 2002-03-31 14:31:07 UTC
Hi Jon,
I just won a bid on a pair of Sanyo Denki "Super R" DC servo motors.
The encoder on them is 2000 cpi, and The motor is rated at 300W, 80V,
4.8A, 2500 RPM (R730-012W). So I *THINK* I've found my servo motors for
my RF-31 mill. Not too much on it on the web. The motor is 3" dia with
a square flange, and the motor is 5" long. Encoder adds another 1.5" to
the length. Encoder pinout printed on the encoder! I plan to drive it
with Gecko 340's.
So is this too much for my RF-31? It might be overkill, but since I
have them, I'll run them! I've been looking for the discussions on
previous servos (I thought I saved a few that I could follow), but I
haven't found them in my saved emails. I'm thinking of 7/8" ball
screws, and a short (1:1?) 3/8" ('L') belt. I'd love a discussion of
the potential of these servos!
This "long term project" just keeps moving along (slightly ahead of my
funds)!
Alan KM6VV
Jon Elson wrote:
I just won a bid on a pair of Sanyo Denki "Super R" DC servo motors.
The encoder on them is 2000 cpi, and The motor is rated at 300W, 80V,
4.8A, 2500 RPM (R730-012W). So I *THINK* I've found my servo motors for
my RF-31 mill. Not too much on it on the web. The motor is 3" dia with
a square flange, and the motor is 5" long. Encoder adds another 1.5" to
the length. Encoder pinout printed on the encoder! I plan to drive it
with Gecko 340's.
So is this too much for my RF-31? It might be overkill, but since I
have them, I'll run them! I've been looking for the discussions on
previous servos (I thought I saved a few that I could follow), but I
haven't found them in my saved emails. I'm thinking of 7/8" ball
screws, and a short (1:1?) 3/8" ('L') belt. I'd love a discussion of
the potential of these servos!
This "long term project" just keeps moving along (slightly ahead of my
funds)!
Alan KM6VV
Jon Elson wrote:
>
> Carol & Jerry Jankura wrote:
>
> > What about the controllers that accept microstes but have a real servo on
> > the back end? What kind of accuracy can you attain with these?
> >
>
> It depends on a WHOLE lot of things. There are deadbands inherent in
> closed loop control, but they can be pretty narrow in some systems.
> The encoder resolution is the basic unit here. but, this can get quite
> high at reasonable cost. 1000 cycle/rev encoders are not terribly expensive.
> These give 4000 counts/rev when all encoder transitions are counted.
> If you put this encoder directly on a 5 TPI ballscrew, then you get
> 5 x 4000 or 20,000 counts/inch. So, the unit of resolution is .00005",
> yes that's 50 micro-inches! Now, depending on how flexible your
> machine is, how accurately the screw is ground, how accurately
> the table ways were made, what class of couplings you have between the
> leadscrew and encoder, etc. the accuracy of the machine can be
> low or high. I have such a setup on a VERY old and worn Bridgeport,
> and I can usually hold tolerances of .003" or so on modest sized
> parts. If I need to hold it tighter, I can adjust the program after a
> test part. having a machine with absolutely perfect accuracy still
> won't guarantee accurate parts. You still have to contend with
> thermal expansion of the part, mechanical flexing of the part and
> possibly fixture, and flexing of the tool. These can be considerable.
>
> Jon
>
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2002-03-22 20:05:10 UTC
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2002-03-23 13:32:03 UTC
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2002-03-23 16:41:11 UTC
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2002-03-23 17:07:43 UTC
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2002-03-23 20:36:31 UTC
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Steve Blackmore
2002-03-24 01:29:05 UTC
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lenskeeper2000
2002-03-24 09:08:23 UTC
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ballendo
2002-03-29 13:45:21 UTC
microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
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2002-03-29 14:28:55 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
mariss92705
2002-03-29 15:54:00 UTC
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2002-03-29 16:33:58 UTC
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2002-03-29 23:20:00 UTC
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Carol & Jerry Jankura
2002-03-30 05:35:35 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
mariss92705
2002-03-30 14:13:00 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-03-30 23:20:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
Jon Elson
2002-03-30 23:44:37 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
dave_ace_me
2002-03-31 06:56:41 UTC
Re: microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-03-31 14:31:07 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-03-31 15:28:59 UTC
Re: microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
Jon Elson
2002-03-31 23:11:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
Jon Elson
2002-03-31 23:16:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: microstep accuracy was what comprises as step
ballendo
2002-04-06 08:05:08 UTC
Ballscrew size for rf-31 was Re: microstep accuracy