CAP's (again) (was Re: another transformer question
Posted by
turbulatordude
on 2002-08-12 13:45:04 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "mariss92705" <mariss92705@y...> wrote:
right now.
I am getting 109 VAC from the wall as of now. Seems the well pump
starts and the light dim occasionally. So I would expect an
occasional drop.
21.9V out of the secondary. ( um... NOT 5 x the motor voltage, I
expected to connect to the 34 V lines.) that puts the DC at just
over 30 volts. (OK, the 6 V stepper just makes it on 5X)
The caps are Jameco, 470uF, 65 Volt. Once the bugs are out, I'll
move up to the NEME34's at 1.5Volt 4.2 amps. The low voltage of the
larger steppers is what I was using to set up.
The transformer has 8 secondary lines so I can go from 7 volts up to
45 volts by picking which two lines I need. I'm not sure of the
secondary windings to feed them in series for even more choices, but
with what I have now, I'm more than happy.
Dave
> Dave,I threw a cheap multi meter over the lines to see what it is doing
>
> They still are aluminum electrolytics. Low ESR simply means
> low "equivalent series resistance". The bigger the cap (uF), the
> lower the ESR. One thing I forgot to ask; what is your power supply
> voltage and what was the voltage rating of the cap that blew?
>
> Mariss
right now.
I am getting 109 VAC from the wall as of now. Seems the well pump
starts and the light dim occasionally. So I would expect an
occasional drop.
21.9V out of the secondary. ( um... NOT 5 x the motor voltage, I
expected to connect to the 34 V lines.) that puts the DC at just
over 30 volts. (OK, the 6 V stepper just makes it on 5X)
The caps are Jameco, 470uF, 65 Volt. Once the bugs are out, I'll
move up to the NEME34's at 1.5Volt 4.2 amps. The low voltage of the
larger steppers is what I was using to set up.
The transformer has 8 secondary lines so I can go from 7 volts up to
45 volts by picking which two lines I need. I'm not sure of the
secondary windings to feed them in series for even more choices, but
with what I have now, I'm more than happy.
Dave
>wrote:
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "turbulatordude" <davemucha@j...>
> > In reviewing the recent release of fluid from my cap, I amthinking
> > that maybe the aluminum cap may not be the best choice.using
> >
> > There was a post a month of so ago discussing the benefit of
> > low ESR and another saying that multiple caps. 100uf and onesmall
> > unit.caps
> >
> > Is there any special style that is bad, or best ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "JJ" <jj5412@e...> wrote:
> > > For what it's worth, Jameco (www.jameco.com) has 470uf 100v
> forovervoltage
> > > US$1.89.
> > >
> > > I know what I would do.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > JJ
> > >
> > > Be Kind, Be Careful, Be Yourself
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: caudlet [mailto:tom@t...]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 1:24 PM
> > > > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y...
> > > > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: another transformer question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <snip> for 48VDC so should just make it under 50V, but the
> > > > measurement says
> > > > > 60VDC, so should I risk it and go ahead to use the same
> > capacitor,
> > > > > even if only temporary? What happens when one exceed the
> rated
> > > > > voltage of a capacitor?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the short term normally nothing happens. If the
> > laststhings
> > > > too long or is way over the limit of the working voltage
> > canresults
> > > > get interesting in a hurry. The insulation layer starts to
> break
> > > > down and the cap starts to draw excessive current which
> > in aones
> > > > rapid build up in internal heat and the electrolyte starts to
> > turn to
> > > > steam. Usually the result in larger caps is a hissing noise
> with
> > > > gook flowing out of the cap. The cap can explode (smaller
> > gorunning
> > > > off like firecrackers) but the real danger is to down stream
> > > > components. If you loose the filter cap the electronics
> > offthings,
> > > > of it are essentially running off half wave AC at 120HZ...not
> > kind to
> > > > components expecting nice smooth DC!
> > > >
> > > > A lot of transformers are designed and rated at close to full
> > load to
> > > > account for losses in the windings and other magnetive
> sosounds
> > a
> > > > 36VAC unit might go to 40VAC lightly loaded but 45Volts
> > > > excessive. Your two 12VDC fans in series should really beyou
> > spinning
> > > > at 60VDC! The resistor in series will reduce that some but
> > mayfans
> > > > have to increase the value to keep the voltage across the
> > 24VDC.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Addresses:
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> > > >
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Discussion Thread
rekmac
2002-08-09 08:01:09 UTC
transformer question
caudlet
2002-08-09 08:21:05 UTC
Re: transformer question
rekmac
2002-08-09 08:56:54 UTC
Re: transformer question
Garry & Maxine Foster
2002-08-09 14:18:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] transformer question
JanRwl@A...
2002-08-09 18:22:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] transformer question
eforum3001
2002-08-10 10:17:16 UTC
another transformer question
Robert Campbell
2002-08-10 10:28:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] another transformer question
eforum3001
2002-08-10 10:48:12 UTC
Re: another transformer question
eforum3001
2002-08-10 11:24:12 UTC
Re: another transformer question
Robert Campbell
2002-08-10 11:52:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: another transformer question
caudlet
2002-08-11 10:24:00 UTC
Re: another transformer question
caudlet
2002-08-11 10:24:01 UTC
Re: another transformer question
JanRwl@A...
2002-08-11 12:59:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: another transformer question
JJ
2002-08-12 06:33:51 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: another transformer question
turbulatordude
2002-08-12 08:58:58 UTC
CAP's (again) (was Re: another transformer question
mariss92705
2002-08-12 11:31:39 UTC
CAP's (again) (was Re: another transformer question
Keith Bowers
2002-08-12 12:14:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] CAP's (again) (was Re: another transformer question
turbulatordude
2002-08-12 13:45:04 UTC
CAP's (again) (was Re: another transformer question
caudlet
2002-08-12 13:45:56 UTC
CAP's (once again) (was Re: another transformer question
mariss92705
2002-08-12 15:10:42 UTC
CAP's (once again) (was Re: another transformer question
turbulatordude
2002-08-12 17:48:08 UTC
CAP's (once again) (was Re: another transformer question
turbulatordude
2006-05-06 15:59:03 UTC
transformer question
Jon Elson
2006-05-06 17:55:32 UTC
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turbulatordude
2006-05-06 19:25:20 UTC
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Peter Reilley
2006-05-07 06:46:23 UTC
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Phil Mattison
2006-05-07 10:14:07 UTC
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Brad Dirks
2006-05-07 16:42:55 UTC
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Jon Elson
2006-05-07 17:20:51 UTC
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