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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Electronics gurus please help

Posted by Ian W. Wright
on 2002-09-11 14:38:35 UTC
Hi Scott,

This sounds like an interesting way of doing things - how about putting your
circuit in the files section?

Best wishes,
Ian
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Ian W. Wright
Sheffield, UK


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott M. Thomas" <scott@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Electronics gurus please help


> Hmmm. I suppose you could use 6 if you want to. I built one using a PIC
> and chopped the input to the 4 "end" transistors, worked very well. I
also
> used a common current sense resistor, so this simplified it even further.
>
> I'll have to check out the voltage doubling effect, hadn't thought of
that.
> But this shouldn't have a huge effect on things depending upon the power
> supply voltage.
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mariss92705 [mailto:mariss92705@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:38 PM
> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Electronics gurus please help
>
>
> Scott,
>
> If it were an R/L drive you would be correct. The center-tap of the
> motor coil would go to the + supply thru a large current limit
> resistor and the winding ends would have the transistors.
>
> Since a unipolar chopping drive was mentioned, 6 transistors are
> required; the current limit resistor is replaced with a transistor to
> which pulse width modulation (chopping) is applied. The end
> transistors still would behave the same.
>
> A center-tapped (6-wire motor) winding is a 2:1 step-up transformer.
> because the center tap goes to the + supply, pulling one end wire to
> ground causes 2 times the supply voltage to appear on the other end.
>
> Mariss
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "Scott M. Thomas" <scott@d...> wrote:
> > I count 4 mosfets not 6 for a unipolar drive, did I miss
> something? And,
> > because there are half the parts and no high side drivers involved,
> I would
> > say that a unipolar drive is much simpler. I also don't understand
> why the
> > voltages would be different.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mariss92705 [mailto:mariss92705@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:59 PM
> > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y...
> > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Electronics gurus please help
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It takes 6 power transistors and 6 high speed rectifiers to build a
> > unipolar "chopper", it takes 8 power transistors and 8 high speed
> > rectifiers to make a bipolar (full bridge) one.
> >
> > The power rectifiers are not across the power transistors in the
> > unipolar drive. If MOSFETs are used in a bipolar drive, the
> > rectifiers are included in the transistors.
> >
> > The power transistors "see" twice the power supply voltage in a
> > unipolar drive. In a bipolar drive, the maximum voltage "seen" by
> the
> > power transistors is equal to the supply voltage.
> >
> > The performance of a unipolar drive is about equal to a bipolar
> drive
> > running a motor in a half-winding connection.
> >
> > A bipolar drive is prefered because it is simpler (when MOSFETs are
> > used) and the circuit voltages are lower.
> >
> > Mariss
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., Vajk Fekete <vajk.fekete@o...> wrote:
> > >
> > > question1: is a chopper unipolar driver much worse than a chopper
> > bipolar drive?
> > >
> >
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