Re: CAD/CAM questions

>--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "narentaj" <support@c...> wrote:
> I stand by whatever I've said. John has side stepped the points
>that
> I made and resorted to making wild unsubstantiated statements.
> CAPSmill is widely acknowledged to be one of best production
>milling
> programs around, in terms of features and ease of use. I am sure
>that
> there people in this newsgroup who have used CAPSmill and know that
> John is talking utter nonsense when he says it cannot do any pocket
> milling. This shows how credible his advice is.
>

Naren.

From your web site posting:-

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stevenson [mailto:machines@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:05 AM
To: Support
Subject: Pocket milling

Attached file Jolly.cap
This is a DXF file imported and the contours defined.
When I select the biggest inner contour I get the error message "
Invalid
object for pocket milling"
It is a valid pocket as one of my other programs does this with no
problem.
can you help?
---
Regards

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Your reply five days later.

August 8, 2002
This is a bug, and will be looked into.

Regards,
Naren Sharma
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After that - nothing.
Am I making this up???
How can this be wild and unsubstantiated if you have published it on
your web site.
The fact is the program I had couldn't pocket from a DXF.
You agreed.
period, end of story.

Don't bother to reply. I've stated my case, you have stated your case.
Anything else is a waste of bandwidth.

John S.

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> > You are incorrect in saying I only did one job. I did quite a few
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> > due to the program I wasn't able to do many of them.
> > The first bug I found was the inability to do ANY pocket milling.
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> > workround, new file or help was offerd on this.
> > What am I suppost to do? Redesign my jobs so they don't have
> pockets
> > in them?
> > As they were not able to be completed they couldn't be sent or
> > allowed under your 20 job limit.
> > Even though it was a beta and you said you would upload the new
> exe's
> > as they came available, after 18 days the old ones were still on
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> > site. That's 18 out of a possible 31 days. Hardly keeping up with
> > things is it?
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> > I particulary liked your email that sugested I stay in all week
> end,
> > in the middle of summer, to do you 20 drawings, all different and
> > using diferent stratergies.
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> > I looked at the program to see if it had improved from it's

earlier

> > version, V5. If you remember I tried this, not the beta, the full
> > package. The two files I wanted to do, the gearbox housing and

the

> > double level finger plate it was not able to do. You admitted

this.

> > V6 and subsequent programs now have these as examples. I have
> > repeatedly asked they be removed as this was not a beta program

and

> > they are not your property.
> > So I try the beta program and the first few files I try it can't

do

> > again.
> > Is Meatloaf programming for you? You know the guy who wrote two

out

> > of three ain't bad.
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> > I never said don't buy this program, I just pointed out a problem
> so
> > that anybody trying it could make up their own mind and try it

out

> > with their files.
> > I will admit that I do use two other programs, I've never hidden
> this
> > but as I repeatedly say I DON'T SELL THEM.
> > You are associated with Cadem and so have a vested interest
> > All programs have quirks as opposed to bugs. It's nice to know

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> > what you are trying to do can be done if you are aware of it.
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> > I still stand by what I say that there are better products out
> there
> > for the same or less money.
> > Lets be blunt now. I can't quote current prices but I know that
> > Vector and Dolphin [ the two most used programs on this list ]

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> > priced very attractivly for this group.
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> > Vector is a full 3D package and is very powerfull. It's very well
> > supported and looked after by Fred Smith. It has far more usable
> > features than Capsmill. An upgrade will get you full NURBS and

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> > 4th axis.
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> > Dolphin is basically advertised as a 2 1/2D program the same as
> > Capsmill but again far better features and it can do some 3D work
> > such as swept surfaces etc. 4th axis and full text engraving is
> > standard, as is the very capable lathe module.
> > Support is very good, It's not unusual to get an upgrade out

within

> > two days to cure a problem