Re: Z-Axis Knee Woes
Posted by
mjf462001 <mjf46@j...
on 2003-01-13 19:10:35 UTC
Hi Jake,
I powered the knee of a 9 x 42 mill with the same servos and Gecko
setup. Like yourself I ran into some of the same problems.
I cooked up a counterweight that hung behind the machine and
connected it by cable, over some pullies and down to the knee.
I also added two gas shocks with 175lb of force each.
With this system I only get about 30"/min max with .030" backlash.
It is usable like this but two things would make it better.
1) If I were able to exactly pinpoint the center of gravity of the
knee and counter balance the system from there.
2) Just get a bigger motor!
HTH
Matthew
I powered the knee of a 9 x 42 mill with the same servos and Gecko
setup. Like yourself I ran into some of the same problems.
I cooked up a counterweight that hung behind the machine and
connected it by cable, over some pullies and down to the knee.
I also added two gas shocks with 175lb of force each.
With this system I only get about 30"/min max with .030" backlash.
It is usable like this but two things would make it better.
1) If I were able to exactly pinpoint the center of gravity of the
knee and counter balance the system from there.
2) Just get a bigger motor!
HTH
Matthew
> Hi folks. I'm retrofitting a G3102 Grizzly Knee Mill, a smallertype
> mill somewhere bigger than a drill mill, but smaller than a fulloz
> bridgeport.
>
> I just finished my Z-axis, after success with X and Y. I decided to
> motorize the knee for various reasons. I'm using Camtronics 600-in-
> motors and a 2:1 ratio on the pulleys.gears.
>
> The knee is driven by a shaft that is at 90-degrees to a jackscrew.
> The shaft is connected to the jackscrew via a set of helical spur
>knee.
> Here are my problems:
>
> (1) the motors aren't powerful enough, apparently, to raise the
> They stall and eventually cause my geckos to fault. I'm prettysure
> I have the "limit" set to Max on the geckos.probably
>
> (2) when lowering the knee, the motor turns and every now again
> there's a 'thump' from the mill, as if the knee is not lowering
> smoothly, but in little increments.
>
>
> I guess I have two options:
>
> (a) go to a higher ratio, but 2:1 was the most practical. 3:1 is
> possible but expensive, and anything more is really not possible due
> to pulley size constraints.
>
> (b) counterweight the knee. I think this is complicated and
> not a good idea.currently
>
> In either case I'm not sure it would solve problem #2. I'm
> at a loss on how to proceed. Any suggestions are greatlyapprecaited.
>
> Thanks,
> Jake
Discussion Thread
jbordens <jake@a...
2003-01-13 16:58:46 UTC
Z-Axis Knee Woes
Brian
2003-01-13 18:15:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Z-Axis Knee Woes
torsten98001 <torsten@g...
2003-01-13 18:19:21 UTC
Re: Z-Axis Knee Woes
George Erhart
2003-01-13 18:22:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Z-Axis Knee Woes
mjf462001 <mjf46@j...
2003-01-13 19:10:35 UTC
Re: Z-Axis Knee Woes
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2003-01-13 19:16:16 UTC
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2003-01-13 19:24:09 UTC
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2003-01-13 19:47:23 UTC
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2003-01-13 20:23:54 UTC
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2003-01-13 20:35:47 UTC
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2003-01-13 20:50:47 UTC
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Jon Elson
2003-01-13 23:27:30 UTC
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Vince Negrete
2003-01-14 00:48:10 UTC
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2003-01-14 03:06:10 UTC
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Les Watts
2003-01-14 04:55:01 UTC
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2003-01-14 10:14:35 UTC
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2003-01-14 12:14:24 UTC
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2003-01-14 17:04:15 UTC
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2003-01-14 18:19:00 UTC
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2003-01-14 19:04:51 UTC
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