Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
Posted by
dcdziner
on 2003-05-27 08:57:16 UTC
Dave,
The reinforcement fibers are chopped up, and are readily available.
You can probably get some from almost any ready-mix concrete supplier, or go
into Google, type in "concrete Reinforcement", and you'll find tons of
suppliers. If you only need to pour a few square feet, you should have no
problem getting it pretty flat. A typical scenario for a 2' X 4' slab would
be to use accurate steel or aluminum forms on all 4 sides, and when the
concrete is poured, screed off with an accurate metal screed, with a sawing
motion back and forth, moving the screed down the slab. When the concrete
sets up a little, you'll have a slab with some low spots, but no high spots
at all. In order to fill the low spots, you make a pretty soupy mixture of
cement/sand/water, and using a straightedge in almost the same method as the
screed, pour some of the soupy mixture ahead of the straightedge, to fill
the low spots. After this sets a little, it's then finished with a steel
trowel. I hope this gives you some insight into the method. If not, just
holler.
Marv
The reinforcement fibers are chopped up, and are readily available.
You can probably get some from almost any ready-mix concrete supplier, or go
into Google, type in "concrete Reinforcement", and you'll find tons of
suppliers. If you only need to pour a few square feet, you should have no
problem getting it pretty flat. A typical scenario for a 2' X 4' slab would
be to use accurate steel or aluminum forms on all 4 sides, and when the
concrete is poured, screed off with an accurate metal screed, with a sawing
motion back and forth, moving the screed down the slab. When the concrete
sets up a little, you'll have a slab with some low spots, but no high spots
at all. In order to fill the low spots, you make a pretty soupy mixture of
cement/sand/water, and using a straightedge in almost the same method as the
screed, pour some of the soupy mixture ahead of the straightedge, to fill
the low spots. After this sets a little, it's then finished with a steel
trowel. I hope this gives you some insight into the method. If not, just
holler.
Marv
----- Original Message -----
From: "David A. Frantz" <wizard@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice -
Phillycast - concrete
> Hi Marv;
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Is the monofilament polypropylene commonly available? Kinda sounds
> like fishing line to me, given that I could see where it would make an
> excelent reinforcer.
>
> Not to push the subject to much but are the finishing methods you allude
> to feasable for somebody who is tooling challenged. That is my shop
> may not be as well equipped as those of some of the other memebers of
> the list. Ideally I'm looking for something that I can fabricate and
> get flat over a couple of square feet to within a couple of thousands.
>
> If the either fabrication method (concrete or a doit yourself
> Phillycast) is to unreliable for the average home shop user then I can
> go back to searching for used mills to prototype on. On the surface
> either one of these methods looks like an ideal method for simple
> machine framing.
>
> Thanks
> dave
>
>
> dcdziner wrote:
>
> >Dave,
> > Let's try a slightly different scenario. Rather than filling the
> >center void with wood, I would use styrofoam, and use it in rectangles to
> >divide the underside into cells. You'll then have structural members
> >supporting the underside of the top slab in both directions, and require
a
> >thinner top section. In addition, you should add fibers of monofilament
> >polypropylene to the concrete mixture. This is the newest method of
> >reinforcing concrete, that's replaced steel mesh. When you get a little
> >closer to pouring concrete, I'll give you instructions on how to finish
the
> >slab so it's really flat.
> > In the past 20 years, I have placed several million square feet
of
> >"superflat" warehouse floor, so a router table should not be a problem.
> >
> >Marv Frankel
> >Los Angeles
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
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> >Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 5:21 PM
> >Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice -
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> >
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2003-05-25 08:41:43 UTC
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2003-05-25 09:49:15 UTC
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2003-05-25 13:22:14 UTC
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2003-05-25 16:25:44 UTC
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2003-05-25 18:02:01 UTC
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2003-05-25 22:19:17 UTC
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dcdziner
2003-05-26 01:13:37 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Ball screw cost and sources
turbulatordude
2003-05-26 08:11:34 UTC
Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
David A. Frantz
2003-05-26 14:22:55 UTC
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Chris L
2003-05-26 16:52:50 UTC
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turbulatordude
2003-05-26 17:22:00 UTC
Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
David A. Frantz
2003-05-26 20:13:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
dcdziner
2003-05-26 21:37:43 UTC
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David A. Frantz
2003-05-27 05:38:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
turbulatordude
2003-05-27 07:17:24 UTC
Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
turbulatordude
2003-05-27 07:26:29 UTC
Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
dcdziner
2003-05-27 08:57:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
Stephan Kotzé
2003-05-27 13:21:55 UTC
Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
dcdziner
2003-05-27 14:45:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete
David A. Frantz
2003-05-27 14:53:22 UTC
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Indy123456
2003-05-27 16:10:14 UTC
Re: Ball screw cost and sources - Moglice - Phillycast - concrete