Re: Router plan made from steel
Posted by
turbulatordude
on 2003-11-07 12:27:04 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "David A. Frantz"
<wizard@e...> wrote:
specs would become off topic.
Aluminum is stronger than steel on a pound for pound comparison, but
aluminum is often 4 to 10 times the cost.
I would hope that one of our structurial guru's would comment on the
differences. But, on the surface, I would think that steel would
offer a more ridgid structure when the designs are similar. also, I
would think that aluminum would be a lot larger for members to
achieve the same strenghts.
but, I also agree that a complete design is better than using one
based on one metal and building it with another.
The Axuus unit looked like it was an all steel platform and only used
aluminim for the risers on the gantry. One thing that table did not
appear to have were any members to prevent racking. Probably not a
problem for wood or plasma.
My design was very similar, 2 inch square steel tubes, 3.16 wall for
most of the frame, some 2x3 square for some parts. I also followed
Les's advice and laid in a corner to opposite corner brace. It was
made by laying a length on the table, and cutting it on the angles,
then pieceing it into the sections and welding. that made my design
look very similar, but with the addition of a large X on the table.
Getting married and moving into a smaller shop set my building of my
table back a little more than I hoped.
Dave
ps: plasma is a VERY smokey process and some form of smoke
handling/removal is needed to keep the shop from getting too filled.
for more discussion, we covered this in depth about a year ago.
Dave
<wizard@e...> wrote:
> HI Mina;have
>
> Weight is generally not a problem for machine tools. But you can
> issues with vibration and stiffness in steel structures if care isnot
> taken. It may be difficult to translate plans for a machinebuilt out
> of aluminum directly into a steel structure.steel
>
> From this perspective I would look for plans that are based on
> from the begining. Hopefully they are plans that have been fieldproven.
>run
> The alternative is to develope a design of your own. In the long
> this may be the smart thing to do. I'm not sure if you wherequoting
> me or someone else but I'm not one to believe that steel is muchcheaper
> than aluminum. Often when the end results are produced one findthat
> to get equivalent functionality aluminum is cheaper. But thisI don't think the materials used for machines and the structural
> discussion would quickly digress of topic.
>
> Thanks
> Dave
specs would become off topic.
Aluminum is stronger than steel on a pound for pound comparison, but
aluminum is often 4 to 10 times the cost.
I would hope that one of our structurial guru's would comment on the
differences. But, on the surface, I would think that steel would
offer a more ridgid structure when the designs are similar. also, I
would think that aluminum would be a lot larger for members to
achieve the same strenghts.
but, I also agree that a complete design is better than using one
based on one metal and building it with another.
The Axuus unit looked like it was an all steel platform and only used
aluminim for the risers on the gantry. One thing that table did not
appear to have were any members to prevent racking. Probably not a
problem for wood or plasma.
My design was very similar, 2 inch square steel tubes, 3.16 wall for
most of the frame, some 2x3 square for some parts. I also followed
Les's advice and laid in a corner to opposite corner brace. It was
made by laying a length on the table, and cutting it on the angles,
then pieceing it into the sections and welding. that made my design
look very similar, but with the addition of a large X on the table.
Getting married and moving into a smaller shop set my building of my
table back a little more than I hoped.
Dave
ps: plasma is a VERY smokey process and some form of smoke
handling/removal is needed to keep the shop from getting too filled.
for more discussion, we covered this in depth about a year ago.
Dave
Discussion Thread
Mina Aboul Saad
2003-11-06 04:07:13 UTC
Router plan made from steel
JanRwl@A...
2003-11-06 13:18:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Router plan made from steel
David A. Frantz
2003-11-06 17:03:33 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Router plan made from steel
turbulatordude
2003-11-06 20:33:47 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel
Mina Aboul Saad
2003-11-07 00:46:28 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel
turbulatordude
2003-11-07 07:23:45 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel
David A. Frantz
2003-11-07 10:49:33 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Router plan made from steel
turbulatordude
2003-11-07 12:27:04 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel
Mina Aboul saad
2003-11-08 05:08:36 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel
turbulatordude
2003-11-08 10:44:46 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel
Dave Kowalczyk
2003-11-08 11:16:57 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel
turbulatordude
2003-11-08 13:19:18 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel- alum vs steel
David A. Frantz
2003-11-08 16:25:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Router plan made from steel- alum vs steel
turbulatordude
2003-11-08 20:31:52 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel- alum vs steel
dakota8833
2003-11-10 05:49:38 UTC
Re: Router plan made from steel- alum vs steel