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microstepping was Re: stepper vs. servo

Posted by ballendo
on 2004-02-12 09:04:03 UTC
Ray,

All microstepping drives use sin/cos in adjacent coils. Type "a3977"
into a yahoo search, and take a look at the spec sheet for this
microstepping chip (used in the xylotex driver, among others). It
shows a table of the values used for the various microstep
resolutions...

FWIW, I never really "got" what Don was trying to do with the magic
sine waves. But I do know he's at : http://www.tinaja.com (note
the "i")

Hope this helps,

Ballendo

P.S. Although sin/cos is the BASIS for ustep'g; real world issues
like motor construction mean that often the current(amps) values used
are NOT the directly looked-up sin/cos values for the desired angle...


--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Raymond Heckert" <jnr@a...>
wrote:
> Has anybody ever designed a micro-stepping driver that outputs
> approximations of sine/cos to two adjacent coils. I understand
that you
> develop max torque at any rpm, up to the max (which is higher than
the
> square-wave input). Is this true? How much would it take to
develop,
> assuming no one already has? BTW does anybody know anything about
Don
> Lancaster's (tenaja.com) Magic Sine Waves, and if they can be
applied to
> this application.
>
> RayHex
>
> ----------
> > From: Jon Elson <elson@p...>
> >
> > Given the Gecko 320 as the driver for the servos, I think there
are a
> > couple of significant advantages over steppers. First, the
servos are
> > usually capable of a greater speed range, while steppers rapidly
lose
> > torque at higher speeds. With servos, you rarely have to worry
about
> > resonance issues. You don't say whether you will use belts, rack
and
> pinion
> > or leadscrews to drive this machine, but the servo will likely
provide
> > smoother motion, and be less perturbed by some backlash in the
mechanics.
> > Steppers can go wild when rack and pinion drive is used, and
rattle the
> > gears
> > something awful. Finally, if you lose a step with a stepper
drive, you
> > won't know it until you measure the finished part. With the
gecko 320,
> > it won't allow small errors to build up, and will fault if the
drive
> binds
> > up or crashes. This can be sensed by the computer and cause it
to stop
> > all axes.
> >
> > Jon

Discussion Thread

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Tellason 2004-02-09 22:35:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: stepper vs. servo Les Newell 2004-02-10 00:55:07 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: stepper vs. servo John Johnson 2004-02-10 05:22:09 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] stepper vs. servo Peter Renolds 2004-02-10 06:01:12 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: stepper vs. servo - H Bridge question Jon Elson 2004-02-10 07:47:46 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: stepper vs. servo Stan Aarhus 2004-02-10 07:49:36 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] stepper vs. servo ballendo 2004-02-10 07:50:14 UTC DIY servo drive? was Re: stepper vs. servo Jon Elson 2004-02-10 08:02:47 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: stepper vs. servo bank haam 2004-02-10 09:47:15 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DIY servo drive? was Re: stepper vs. servo Mariss Freimanis 2004-02-10 11:36:49 UTC DIY servo drive? was Re: stepper vs. servo dchristal2 2004-02-10 13:32:47 UTC Re: stepper vs. servo ballendo 2004-02-10 16:59:46 UTC Re: stepper vs. servo ballendo 2004-02-10 17:02:13 UTC Re: stepper vs. servo ballendo 2004-02-10 17:03:03 UTC Re: stepper vs. servo Roy J. Tellason 2004-02-10 17:51:24 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: stepper vs. servo Jon Elson 2004-02-10 21:23:22 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: stepper vs. servo Roy J. 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