Re: current rating of transformers
Posted by
turbulatordude
on 2004-10-25 09:47:02 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Andy Wander <awander@v...>
wrote:
You are exactly correct in that the wires in a tranformer are exactly
the correct size for the maximum of the transformer.
But heat the real limiting factor. too small a wire, and they
overheat and short out.
The transformer houses pay engineers to design these things and not
add extra copper for the fun of it. Imagine the cost of adding a
useless extra pound per transformer.
But, as Jon had said, you can connect these things for maximum power
or what much reduced power you need.
Since I'm looking at a 21 amp 48 volt supply, that could be a single
48 volt transformer.
As was said, if I am lighing 24 volt DC lignts on a 2 diode
rectifier, then the transformer will only send power at 1/2 cycles
and run much cooler.
In this case, the transformers I am looking into are listed as having
a higher rating with a choke input filter than with a capacitor one.
What I am learning from this thread is that transformers are not
always selected without design calculations.
Darn, life was so much easier when I thought I knew everything but
really knew very little.
Dave
wrote:
> Yeah, but....wire
>
> I still say that the thing that limits the secondary current is the
> gauge used for the secondary winding.heavier
>
> I don't think many transformers are built using wire that's a lot
> than needing fro rated output current. Therefore, dropping theprimary
> voltage(thereby dropping the secondary voltage) doesn't mean youcan now
> pump more current through it to "get back" up to the VA rating.Hi Andy,
>
> Andy Wander
> Verrex Corporation
>
You are exactly correct in that the wires in a tranformer are exactly
the correct size for the maximum of the transformer.
But heat the real limiting factor. too small a wire, and they
overheat and short out.
The transformer houses pay engineers to design these things and not
add extra copper for the fun of it. Imagine the cost of adding a
useless extra pound per transformer.
But, as Jon had said, you can connect these things for maximum power
or what much reduced power you need.
Since I'm looking at a 21 amp 48 volt supply, that could be a single
48 volt transformer.
As was said, if I am lighing 24 volt DC lignts on a 2 diode
rectifier, then the transformer will only send power at 1/2 cycles
and run much cooler.
In this case, the transformers I am looking into are listed as having
a higher rating with a choke input filter than with a capacitor one.
What I am learning from this thread is that transformers are not
always selected without design calculations.
Darn, life was so much easier when I thought I knew everything but
really knew very little.
Dave
Discussion Thread
turbulatordude
2004-10-24 08:57:44 UTC
current rating of transformers
Jon Elson
2004-10-24 09:25:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] current rating of transformers
turbulatordude
2004-10-24 09:42:30 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
Andy Wander
2004-10-24 11:14:03 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] current rating of transformers
Jon Elson
2004-10-24 20:03:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: current rating of transformers
Jon Elson
2004-10-24 20:28:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] current rating of transformers
learnningstuff
2004-10-24 23:05:59 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
turbulatordude
2004-10-24 23:30:59 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
Andy Wander
2004-10-25 05:12:26 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] current rating of transformers
Andy Wander
2004-10-25 05:22:39 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: current rating of transformers
turbulatordude
2004-10-25 09:47:02 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
Jon Elson
2004-10-25 10:15:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] current rating of transformers
Andy Wander
2004-10-25 10:45:06 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] current rating of transformers
turbulatordude
2004-10-25 11:28:34 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
John Dammeyer
2004-10-25 11:46:56 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] current rating of transformers
kmslinda
2004-10-25 14:40:53 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
Jon Elson
2004-10-25 22:59:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: current rating of transformers
turbulatordude
2004-10-25 23:27:20 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
caudlet
2004-10-26 07:02:12 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
Fred Smith
2004-10-26 07:19:04 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
Jon Elson
2004-10-26 09:18:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: current rating of transformers
Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-10-26 11:47:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: current rating of transformers
Bloy2004
2004-10-26 14:51:36 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
Bloy2004
2004-10-26 18:57:13 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
Jon Elson
2004-10-26 23:07:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: current rating of transformers
Bloy2004
2004-10-27 06:14:34 UTC
Re: current rating of transformers
Roy J. Tellason
2004-10-27 10:11:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: current rating of transformers
Jon Elson
2004-10-27 10:36:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: current rating of transformers