Re: 5-Phase steppers
Posted by
caudlet
on 2005-01-19 15:25:05 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Tony Jeffree <tony@j...>
wrote:
more poles closer together. This results in two things. They have
less distance to move (the ones I have in my "wish" cabinet are .72
deg per step) which results in less vibration and noise and takes
less power to pop the motor to the next pole. This also translates
to true resolution enhancement. Now, if you want to talk about
drives it's true that smoothness is much better with the
microstepping bipolar drives but if you just were to be able to do
1/4 stepping with a 5 phase you would be up to a microstepping
level. There is no USA economic justification to run 5 phase motors
(the reason I have 8 beautiful Berger Lahr 34 frame motors in storage
and run 2 phase on all my stepper machines with Gecko's), but the
person posting was not in the US and the availability and price of a
lot of things we use here are more problematic to them. Berger Lahr
is a German company and his posting looked to be from that part of
the globe.
wrote:
> At 19:28 19/01/2005, caudlet wrote:here. You
> >5 phase steppers run smoother...<snip>
>
> I'm afraid you're in danger of descending into advertising speak
> fail to answer the question begged by this statement -i.e., "smoother than
> what?".step, or
>
> If you mean:
>
> a) Smoother than a 2-phase stepper motor driven in full or half
>transatlantically
> b) Smoother than a bag of spanners (wrenches to the
> challenged),microstepping drive,
>
> then I would agree with you.
>
> However, if you mean:
>
> c) Smoother than a 2-phase motor driven by a good bipolar
>stepping
> then I would strongly disagree.
>
> 5-phase steppers made sense when they were superior to full/half
> drives and at the same time an economical alternative to the thenexpensive
> microstepping drives. Since the arrival of good qualitymicrostepping
> drives at very reasonable prices (e.g., Gecko, to name but one),the
> economic justification doesn't exist anymore.On a one for one basis (motor VS motor) the five phase motors have
>
>
> Regards,
> Tony
more poles closer together. This results in two things. They have
less distance to move (the ones I have in my "wish" cabinet are .72
deg per step) which results in less vibration and noise and takes
less power to pop the motor to the next pole. This also translates
to true resolution enhancement. Now, if you want to talk about
drives it's true that smoothness is much better with the
microstepping bipolar drives but if you just were to be able to do
1/4 stepping with a 5 phase you would be up to a microstepping
level. There is no USA economic justification to run 5 phase motors
(the reason I have 8 beautiful Berger Lahr 34 frame motors in storage
and run 2 phase on all my stepper machines with Gecko's), but the
person posting was not in the US and the availability and price of a
lot of things we use here are more problematic to them. Berger Lahr
is a German company and his posting looked to be from that part of
the globe.
Discussion Thread
Peter Barrett
2005-01-17 04:20:59 UTC
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2005-01-17 13:00:42 UTC
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Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-01-17 14:03:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] 5-Phase steppers
Roy J. Tellason
2005-01-17 15:52:19 UTC
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Peter Barrett
2005-01-17 17:49:05 UTC
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Alan Marconett
2005-01-17 18:38:50 UTC
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Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-01-17 19:53:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] 5-Phase steppers
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-01-17 20:03:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] 5-Phase steppers
Peter Barrett
2005-01-17 22:31:36 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] 5-Phase steppers
Roelof Verlinde
2005-01-19 07:13:14 UTC
5-Phase steppers
caudlet
2005-01-19 11:29:35 UTC
Re: 5-Phase steppers
Tony Jeffree
2005-01-19 12:08:58 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 5-Phase steppers
Bengt
2005-01-19 12:58:26 UTC
Re: 5-Phase steppers
Bob Muse
2005-01-19 15:02:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 5-Phase steppers
caudlet
2005-01-19 15:25:05 UTC
Re: 5-Phase steppers
Anders Blix
2005-01-20 07:16:08 UTC
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