Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Converter Trouble

You want to use a 5 hp for the rotary converter then use 30 if per hp run
and 60uf per hp start i just used a light switch to add the start caps. i
turn the light switch on then turn on the converter and when it gets up to
speed i turn off the light switch.
that was my ez way to do it. I would not use a self starting converter. my
way works and a light switch is cheep.

hope that helps
regards
s


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From: Polaraligned
Date: 05/21/05 07:31:57
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Converter Trouble

Thanks Stan,
I am trying to do the self starting converter as shown here:
http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/ph-conv/fig7.html
It shows no start capacitors just 25 to 30 uF per HP run
caps. According to the text, it will start by itself without
any additional start circuit. And yes, just throwing 120uF
between L1 and L3 instantly started my bridgeport 2HP, so the
circuit DOES work,it just won't get the 5 HP going. Maybe I need a
higher capacitance,but I am using the values the text recommends.
I am trying to do this dirt cheap as it is only a temporary setup.
I have already spent $80 on these run capacitors and really don't
want to buy another. A start cap in the size you recommend is $10, so
maybe I will try it. Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Scott



--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "STAN MCDONALD"
<SMCDONAL@K...> wrote:

> put another cap from L1 to L3 of 300uf and click it in just to get

the motor

> up to speed and it will work.
> Regards
> s
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> From: Polaraligned
> Date: 05/20/05 19:45:35
> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Converter Trouble
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> I am just a sap for old electronics. I think it is the greatest
> thing that my newly aquired BOSS 4 uses an LSI 11 and lots of
> 74xxx logic. So for my sanity, I really need to run this machine
> before I convert it to modern controls. I am trying to do this
> as inexpensive as possible. I have a 5HP motor that I am trying
> to use as a rotory converter. I have connected 240v to L1 and L2
> and used between 120 uF and 170 uF, run capacitors, from L1 to L3.
> The motor refuses to start. It barely spins with 120 uF and spins
> slowly with 170 uF. If I leave it on too long, the motor heats up
> and you can smell the winding enamal burning. According to
> http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/ph-conv/ph-conv.html this should
> work as a self starting phase converter. Yet the motor won't run. I
> haven't even tried to hook it up to the machine. I figure I
> should get the motor running first, then hook it up to the machine.
> What is weird is that my Anderson 1 to 3 Hp static phase
> converter fires this motor right up. I just can't keep it running long
> because the Anderson looses a bit of the magic smoke because the 5 HP
> motor is too big for it. So what is special about the Anderson

converter

> that it fires this motor right up, yet I can't get it moving with my
> run capacitors? What am I missing?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
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