Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] File - CCEDBoilerplate.txt

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Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] File - CCEDBoilerplate.txt


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> This list is for the discussion of CNC and related topics including CAD,
> CAM, EDM, & DRO. The list focuses on the construction of home shop CNC
> machines along with the technologies a CNC hobbyist will need in a Home
> Shop environment. This list does NOT cover general machining techniques,
> speeds & feeds, or any other type question that would have the same answer
> for a manual machine. This is not a forum for the discussion of commercial
> shop issues, but commercial users are welcome and encouraged to
> participate in the discussion of hobby related issues and the building of
> machines that are likely to be used in a home shop. This group is strictly
> aimed at the "home workshop bunch".
>
> Normally this list is not moderated, but is closely monitored. New member
> start out moderated and will be converted to unmoderated once we see a
> couple of post. This is done to keep out spammer and other trouble makers.
> Any member is subject to moderation or banning without notice if they
> create problems on the list or violate any of the below rules. Moderators
> can be reached off list at CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-owner@yahoogroups.com to
> discuss any decision or to make suggestion.
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> We feel that what makes the CCED list so valuable and actively read is
> that it is very tightly focused. Members know they can subscribe to this
> list and learn useful and valuable information on building a CNC machine
> without wasting time on general yak and shop talk. If you are looking for
> a place to jaw with some crusty machinists this is not it. If you are
> looking to learn about CNC machining and how to implement this in your own
> workshop then you have found the right place.
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> LIST RULES:
> o Any request, offers, or discussion of pirated or cracked software is
> strictly forbidden and can result in the posters immediate banning without
> prior notice.
> o Flaming, Off Topic Posts, Arguments, or rabble rousing are not allowed
> with the threat of immediate moderation or banning if you feel you must.
> o Posting items for sale or auction is allowed as long as the items are
> directly related to the subject matter of this list and the privilege is
> not abused. Abuse would be considered repeatedly posting the same items in
> a short time period or posting a catalog type listing. Posting the prices
> for items you have to sell is acceptable and encouraged. All dealing on an
> item are to be conducted privately. Listing of items you sell in your
> signature is acceptable if it is related to the topics of this list and is
> not the primary message in your post.
> o Off Topic Posts. This is a large list and we are very serious about
> keeping it focused. Off topic posts are very unwelcome. If a moderator
> declares a particular discussion as off topic it is to be dropped
> immediately. Any discussion or comments regarding the decision are to be
> handled off list to the moderators at
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> Here is our philosophy on determining on and off topic subjects.
> We have to make a division somewhere or almost anything can be construed
> as being a CNC topic. The general decision is that if the item would have
> no meaning if you removed the CNC part it is on topic. On the other hand
> if the answer is identical without the CNC in the question it is not an
> appropriate topic. As an example if you ask "how do I machine Delran on my
> CNC machine?" it is off topic as it is really a general shop question.
> Machining Delran on a CNC machine is no different than machining it on a
> manual machine. If the question is "Will Delran work as a good split nut
> on my home designed CNC router ?" that would be on topic as it is specific
> to CNC as the wear and acceptable backlash are different than on a manual
> machine.
>
> Off topic posts are a big deal with a list the size of the CCED. If every
> member asked an off topic question even once a year that is over 8 a day.
> Can you imagine the list traffic that would be devoted to non-related
> issues if 8 were asked a day when you figure in the replies. If you wish
> to post on unlimited subjects go to: rec.crafts.metalworking or
> http://www.metalworking.com/news_servers.html
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jobshophomeshop
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> We try to apply an even measure in maintaining order on the list.
> Basically it works like this: Blatant violation of well know rules get
> immediate moderation or banning (reserved for spam, porn, software piracy,
> unsociable behavior). Obvious violations that are questionable in intent
> (they may have though it was OK) get stern warning. Pushing the envelope,
> but not clearly off topic gets not so subtle reminders.
>
> How we interpret the list rules in regard to product promotion on the
> list:
> A onetime announcement regarding a product is acceptable if it is a new
> item or product line that would be of interest to the list members and is
> within the scope of the items we allow discussion on. This would meant
> that an offering similar to the example #1 for drives, motors, machines,
> CAD/CAM/Controller software, and other topic related items would be
> welcome. A similar post for crack software, cutters, oil, air lines,
> pills, potions, porn, vacations, get rich quick, etc. would not be
> acceptable as they do not deal with items that are considered acceptable
> topics for this list.
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> We do not allow infomercial only posts beyond the onetime announcement
> spelled out above and in example #1. This is not to say that the list can
> not be used quite successfully for the promotion of a topic related
> product. What we do allow is the posting of product promotion in the
> signature when replying to or posting on an acceptable topic. So, if you
> want to participate in a discussion and share your knowledge of the topic
> at hand you are welcome to include a signature reminder or your company
> and product. Additionally, you are always welcome to recommend your
> products when it is a suitable solution for a posters question. An example
> would be if someone asks about suitable widget for their CNC conversion.
> You would be more than welcome to suggest your company product and explain
> why it would be a good choice if it is an acceptable product for this
> application. The final acceptable way to use the list is if you are
> willing to offer a special price to list members. This is the only context
> in which a commercial only post is allowed beyond the initial post and is
> only acceptable if it truly is a special deal, is honestly restricted to
> list members, is not your only postings to the list (in other words, it is
> a benefit of being a supporter of the discussion on the list), and is not
> done on too frequent a basis (one a month would be about the most). It is
> the right of the moderator team to determine if this type of post is being
> abused and delete or reject any post they view as not conforming to the
> spirit of the group.
>
> Example #1
> Topic: New CCED Topic acceptable item announcement.
>
> Dear group,
> We are Hyper Co and we are now offering/selling/producing a revolutionary
> XYZ widget item. This item will revolutionize hobby CNC with its ability
> to jump higher, move faster, be more intuitive, etc than anything offered
> by our competitors.
>
> The details on the XYZ widget are as follows:
> Blah, blah, blah.
>
> XYZ Widget sells for $$$ and is available directly from Hyper Co of from
> the Captive Widget Web Co site at www.CaptiveWidget.com
>
> If you have further questions about the XYZ Widget please feel free to
> contact us off list at sales@...
>
> Thanks,
> Maggy Marketer
> Hyper Co
> Anywhere USA
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> OFF Topic POSTS: General Machining
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> http://www.metalworking.com/news_servers.html
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jobshophomeshop I consider this to be a
> sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there, for
> OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list.
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