Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Posted by
ballendo
on 2006-04-23 08:44:07 UTC
Hello,
Snips, inserts below...
many previous posts-- 14.5 Pressure angle, as it will minimise
backlash caused by changes in pinion to rack distance.
Others have replied that the undercutting of teeth on small pinions
using this PA is not a good thing, and mention that certain machines-
-including Bystronic CNC laser cutters--use 20PA.
I still prefer and suggest 14.5 PA. (But would use 20PA for
a "lightly loaded" machine, where I might want to economise by going
with a smaller rack and DP.)
gear) affects cogging, strength, and cost. I use 16DP. Coarser gears
can carry more load, but also are more susceptible to backlash
(especially is 20PA is used.) Smaller teeth--larger DP--will have
less ability to endure shop swarf and dust, and a lower strength.
They may even cost more. 16DP seems to be a good compromise for a
4'x8' or thereabouts size machine...
rev, and is large enough to have reasonable undercutting of the
teeth in my preferred 16DP.
What governs this decision is your speed and resolution
requirements. Larger pinion equals faster speed, but a lower
resolution, all else being equal.
I use a 4:1 reduction from motor to pinion, so in the old days<G> of
halfstepping, I would get 240IPM at only 300 RPM at the stepper.
This kept the drive cheap, and was plenty fast. The resolution was
traded to get speed, as it was only about .002". (500SPI)
Using modern drives and motors, you can easily exceed these results.
Ballendo
Snips, inserts below...
>In CCED, "Hector" <hector_a_quintanilla@...> wrote:I have long used and suggested--look in this group archive for my
>Hello,
>Im confused on which combination of rack and pinion to use for a
>6'x10' table.
>1.- which presure angle (PA) to choose, 14.5 PA or 20 PA?
many previous posts-- 14.5 Pressure angle, as it will minimise
backlash caused by changes in pinion to rack distance.
Others have replied that the undercutting of teeth on small pinions
using this PA is not a good thing, and mention that certain machines-
-including Bystronic CNC laser cutters--use 20PA.
I still prefer and suggest 14.5 PA. (But would use 20PA for
a "lightly loaded" machine, where I might want to economise by going
with a smaller rack and DP.)
>2.- after knowing what pressure angle will be used, the next stepThe DP (Diametral Pitch, which is the number of teeth in a one inch
>is to decide the diametral pitch to use.
gear) affects cogging, strength, and cost. I use 16DP. Coarser gears
can carry more load, but also are more susceptible to backlash
(especially is 20PA is used.) Smaller teeth--larger DP--will have
less ability to endure shop swarf and dust, and a lower strength.
They may even cost more. 16DP seems to be a good compromise for a
4'x8' or thereabouts size machine...
>3.- In this step we already know the PA and DP we are going to use,I nearly always use a 1" pinion. This gives about 3" of travel per
>now comes to decide how many teeth on the pinion, so what governs
>this decision?
rev, and is large enough to have reasonable undercutting of the
teeth in my preferred 16DP.
What governs this decision is your speed and resolution
requirements. Larger pinion equals faster speed, but a lower
resolution, all else being equal.
I use a 4:1 reduction from motor to pinion, so in the old days<G> of
halfstepping, I would get 240IPM at only 300 RPM at the stepper.
This kept the drive cheap, and was plenty fast. The resolution was
traded to get speed, as it was only about .002". (500SPI)
Using modern drives and motors, you can easily exceed these results.
>I think is better if someone could really make clear this for meHope I've donethat!<G>
>and others, i guess other have the same doubts.
Ballendo
Discussion Thread
Hector
2006-04-21 17:14:27 UTC
Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
turbulatordude
2006-04-22 07:09:53 UTC
Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Seiman H
2006-04-23 06:53:40 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
ballendo
2006-04-23 08:44:07 UTC
Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Hector
2006-04-23 16:35:54 UTC
Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
turbulatordude
2006-04-23 18:57:14 UTC
Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Jarrett & Heidi Johnson
2006-04-23 19:27:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Jarrett & Heidi Johnson
2006-04-23 19:32:36 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Les Newell
2006-04-24 01:50:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Hector
2006-04-25 16:12:23 UTC
Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Jarrett & Heidi Johnson
2006-04-25 17:31:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
turbulatordude
2006-04-25 20:23:07 UTC
Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Hector
2006-04-26 09:00:48 UTC
Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Heidi Johnson
2006-04-26 09:22:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Hector
2006-04-26 14:12:35 UTC
Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table
Heidi Johnson
2006-04-26 15:18:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Need help to decide what rack and pinion to use in a 6'x10' table