Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Posted by
ptengin@a...
on 2000-07-06 12:00:08 UTC
In a message dated 07/05/2000 7:15:26 PM Hawaiian Standard Time,
jmelson@... writes:
<< > One other idea would be to step up voltage to the device so current is
input,
and a 240 V rated inverter. You run 440 V motors with a 440 V input,
and a
440 V inverter. In theory, you could run a 240 V motor from a 440 V
inverter
with 440 V input, and program the motor for 240 V at 60 Hz. But, you'd
need a 2 Hp inverter to run a 1 Hp motor, as the current doubles when
the
rated voltage drops to half. Just look at the rated current on the
nameplate
of a dual voltage motor. Also, the 240 V motor has 1/4th the inductance
of
a 440 V motor, so the PWM peak current will not come out right at all
for
a 440 V inverter running a 240 V motor, and you would likely get false
overcurrent trips. So, you really get no benefit, and will pay extra,
to be
back where you started from.
Jon >>
Jon,
Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I was thinking of running a 240 volt
motor on a 440 vfd. I figured though wattage remained the same, the current
through the rectifier would be smaller. Hence lower heating. I have mentioned
the AC Tech VFD's? I have one that is 120 volt input, 240 volt output. The
one in my hand is a 1/4 hp, they make them up to 1.5 hp. Very nice for
smaller home based machine users wanting "industrial" variable speed motors.
The whine can be annoying. And a tad on the pricey side.....
Peter
THRD, Inc.
jmelson@... writes:
<< > One other idea would be to step up voltage to the device so current is
> lower through the rectifiers? I'm not sure if this would work. ManyThese units do not convert voltage. You run 240 V motors with a 240 V
> VFD's will accept 440 volts?
input,
and a 240 V rated inverter. You run 440 V motors with a 440 V input,
and a
440 V inverter. In theory, you could run a 240 V motor from a 440 V
inverter
with 440 V input, and program the motor for 240 V at 60 Hz. But, you'd
need a 2 Hp inverter to run a 1 Hp motor, as the current doubles when
the
rated voltage drops to half. Just look at the rated current on the
nameplate
of a dual voltage motor. Also, the 240 V motor has 1/4th the inductance
of
a 440 V motor, so the PWM peak current will not come out right at all
for
a 440 V inverter running a 240 V motor, and you would likely get false
overcurrent trips. So, you really get no benefit, and will pay extra,
to be
back where you started from.
Jon >>
Jon,
Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I was thinking of running a 240 volt
motor on a 440 vfd. I figured though wattage remained the same, the current
through the rectifier would be smaller. Hence lower heating. I have mentioned
the AC Tech VFD's? I have one that is 120 volt input, 240 volt output. The
one in my hand is a 1/4 hp, they make them up to 1.5 hp. Very nice for
smaller home based machine users wanting "industrial" variable speed motors.
The whine can be annoying. And a tad on the pricey side.....
Peter
THRD, Inc.
Discussion Thread
Darrell
2000-07-05 17:49:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Charles VanLeeuwen
2000-07-05 18:30:58 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Doug Harrison
2000-07-05 18:35:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Darrell
2000-07-05 18:39:11 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Doug Harrison
2000-07-05 19:12:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Charles VanLeeuwen
2000-07-05 20:07:36 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Charles VanLeeuwen
2000-07-05 20:12:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
ptengin@a...
2000-07-05 21:08:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Jon Elson
2000-07-05 22:14:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Darrell
2000-07-05 22:21:05 UTC
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Larry Van Duyn
2000-07-06 06:19:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
ptengin@a...
2000-07-06 12:00:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Charles VanLeeuwen
2000-07-06 13:11:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Charles VanLeeuwen
2000-07-06 13:16:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Charles VanLeeuwen
2000-07-06 13:19:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Charles VanLeeuwen
2000-07-06 13:21:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Jon Elson
2000-07-06 15:20:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters
Doug Harrison
2000-07-06 15:50:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Inverters/phase converters