Re: Servo or sterpper motors. on small mill?
Posted by
ballendo
on 2007-03-23 14:41:19 UTC
Paul,
Good point. (Higher accelerations for servos)
I wonder how the throughput would be affected if you used a higher
feed rate with exact stop mode instead of CV?
For newbies, the corner rounding Paul experienced is caused by a CNC
feature called CV (constant velocity). This is where the machine
tries to "drive" the toolpath as if it were a racecar driver (as
fast as it can go, only slowing enough to get around the corners)
Which means that the faster you go the more "you" must round the
corners.
There is another mode for CNC called exact stop. This makes the
control stop and start at each "line" of the toolpath. So there is
no corner rounding at all. But the top speed will be less for
shorter lines. Think of that racecar driver again. If he or she has
to stop at every turn; the distance between turns will limit how
fast the path can be driven. BUT, for some toolpaths,
the "straightaways" may make up for the curves.
And sometimes ANY corner rounding is unacceptable.
FWIW, often G64 is used for CV and G61 for exact stop.
Hope this helps,
Ballendo
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "paultitchener" <pt@...>
wrote:
Good point. (Higher accelerations for servos)
I wonder how the throughput would be affected if you used a higher
feed rate with exact stop mode instead of CV?
For newbies, the corner rounding Paul experienced is caused by a CNC
feature called CV (constant velocity). This is where the machine
tries to "drive" the toolpath as if it were a racecar driver (as
fast as it can go, only slowing enough to get around the corners)
Which means that the faster you go the more "you" must round the
corners.
There is another mode for CNC called exact stop. This makes the
control stop and start at each "line" of the toolpath. So there is
no corner rounding at all. But the top speed will be less for
shorter lines. Think of that racecar driver again. If he or she has
to stop at every turn; the distance between turns will limit how
fast the path can be driven. BUT, for some toolpaths,
the "straightaways" may make up for the curves.
And sometimes ANY corner rounding is unacceptable.
FWIW, often G64 is used for CV and G61 for exact stop.
Hope this helps,
Ballendo
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "paultitchener" <pt@...>
wrote:
>is
> I think this point below, from a link listed by a previous poster
> an important one that sometimes people miss-stopping,
>
> "1) Dynamic response, accelerate faster when starting and
> and changing direction."for
>
> Its not quite as simple as saying that servos will have faster
> rapids, they also will be able to do cut workpieces that require
> quick changes in cutting direction more quickly.
>
> I have steppers on my BP sized mill, and its been a great machine
> me. However, sometimes the stepper limitations slow me down, lastRPM
> time was when I was engraving a prototype case. When engraving you
> want to run as much RPM as you can, 5600 in my case, and at that
> you'd like to be able to feed at 10 to 20 ipm. However with mytext I
> steppers there was way too much rounding of the corners of the
> was engraving, and I had to slow down to 5 ipm or so to get rid ofthe
> the excess rounding.
>
> I didn't start from scratch with this machine, I bought it with
> motors in place and a blown controller, but if I was starting fromalso
> scratch I'd go the servo route, not just for faster rapids but
> for faster cutting without accuracy loss.
>
> Paul T.
>
Discussion Thread
subsailer326
2007-03-22 14:42:26 UTC
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turbulatordude
2007-03-22 19:12:29 UTC
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2007-03-23 02:38:17 UTC
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2007-03-23 05:11:10 UTC
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2007-03-23 05:27:27 UTC
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R Rogers
2007-03-23 07:20:00 UTC
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paultitchener
2007-03-23 10:06:32 UTC
Re: Servo or sterpper motors. on small mill?
Ken Campbell
2007-03-23 10:50:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Servo or sterpper motors. on small mill?
ballendo
2007-03-23 14:26:43 UTC
Re: Servo or sterpper motors. on small mill?
ballendo
2007-03-23 14:30:05 UTC
Re: Servo or sterpper motors. on small mill?
ballendo
2007-03-23 14:41:19 UTC
Re: Servo or sterpper motors. on small mill?
turbulatordude
2007-03-24 04:37:58 UTC
Re: Servo or sterpper motors. on small mill?
Fred Smith
2007-03-24 08:09:00 UTC
Re: Servo or sterpper motors. on small mill?