Re: CNC router build
Posted by
Jack Mc Kie
on 2009-04-01 16:58:50 UTC
Gary,
Does it have a cylindrical area near the spindle nose for mounting? Do you know what diameter the cylindrical area is? Does it come with collets?
Jack
Does it have a cylindrical area near the spindle nose for mounting? Do you know what diameter the cylindrical area is? Does it come with collets?
Jack
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Davison" <gld@...> wrote:
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> Jack
> Yes I use one on my CNC router. It is far better than the dremel.
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> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jack McKie <freshwatermodels@> wrote:
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> > Thanks, do you use one of these?
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> > --- On Wed, 4/1/09, Gary Davison <gld@> wrote:
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> > From: Gary Davison <gld@>
> > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CNC router build
> > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:28 AM
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> > Look at one of these http://www.minicraf ttools.com/ 38481.html
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> > They have better bearings and run quieter than a Dremel.
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> > Gary
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> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_ DRO@yahoogroups. com, Jack McKie <freshwatermodels@ ...> wrote:
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> > > Dave,
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> > > This is primarily a precision cnc router for patternmaking, not a mill for machining metal, so coolant won't be an issue.
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> > > I am aware of limitations of Dremel which is why I am looking for an alternative. Yes, noise and heat come with high cutting speed. I will probably be using carbide end mills exclusively. Part of the plan is to build a sound enclosure but I don't know much about this.
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> > > One alternative I am considering is using a mini-mill head with belt drive retrofit. This would allow me quieter belt drive and R8 collets but the max rpm would be about 4000.
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> > > I don't want to get into building a spindle so am looking for alternatives. I am wondering if there is a die grinder or dremel type tool that has better bearings and might be quieter than a standard router motor.
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> > > --- On Mon, 3/30/09, David LeVine <dlevine144@ ...> wrote:
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> > > From: David LeVine <dlevine144@ ...>
> > > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_ DRO] CNC router build
> > > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_ DRO@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 3:50 PM
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> > > Jack Mc Kie wrote:
> > > > <SNIP>I have a router and a Dremel tool that could be used but I am
> > > > considering some alternative hopeing to keep noise level down. Noise
> > > > is a concern I'm not sure how to deal with. I'm considering making a
> > > > box of some sort to house the router in and line it with some sort of
> > > > noise absorbing material. Any cost effective suggestions on how to
> > > > deal with noise supression would be welcome!
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> > > 1. At high speed, everything gets noisy.
> > > 2. At high speed things get hot in a hurry.
> > > 3. A router or Dremel is not a good, precision spindle.
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> > > If you have machining available, consider that a good, fixed speed
> > > spindle may be better for your needs.
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> > > Put something like a 5200 or a pair of 7200 bearings on the tool end
> > > (angular contact preloaded bearings ensure good positional accuracy) and
> > > a slightly loose bearing on the other (so the shaft doesn't bind.) A
> > > 7200 pair is rated for 29,000 RPM, IIRC. For higher speeds, ceramic
> > > bearings work but are /*spendy! */Driven by a belt and an induction
> > > motor, such a spindle will be quieter, more robust (last longer) and
> > > more accurate, but heavier. Remember, lower speed is always better for
> > > bearing life. Smaller bearings and open bearings (especially with oil
> > > mist lubrication to remove heat) will run faster and last longer than
> > > shielded or sealed bearings.
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> > > With a VFD and a 3 phase motor, you even get the variable speed
> > > advantages, but with a weight penalty. You may need a cooling fan if
> > > the VFD runs the motor slower than 75% of the rated speed.
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> > > David G. LeVine
> > > Nashua, NH 03060
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2009-03-01 11:11:18 UTC
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2009-04-02 07:31:08 UTC
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2009-04-02 18:07:49 UTC
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2009-04-02 19:37:06 UTC
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2009-04-03 01:06:05 UTC
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Andrew Werby
2009-04-03 12:13:26 UTC
Re: CNC router build
Jon Elson
2009-04-03 19:24:47 UTC
Precise spindles