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Re: CNC router build

Posted by Gary Davison
on 2009-04-02 06:02:31 UTC
Jack

Take another look at this link, http://www.minicrafttools.com/38481.html

Comes with every thing in the picture. The nose measures .784 OD X .430 long.
Here are some pictures from my setup.
http://www.gldpages.com/proxxon/img_0834.jpg
http://www.gldpages.com/proxxon/img_0835.jpg
http://www.gldpages.com/proxxon/img_0836.jpg
http://www.gldpages.com/proxxon/img_0837.jpg

Got mine at NAMES last year from LMS. Have not used it much, but am very happy with it.

Gary


--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Mc Kie" <freshwatermodels@...> wrote:
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> Gary,
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> Does it have a cylindrical area near the spindle nose for mounting? Do you know what diameter the cylindrical area is? Does it come with collets?
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> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Davison" <gld@> wrote:
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> > Jack
> > Yes I use one on my CNC router. It is far better than the dremel.
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> > Gary
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> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jack McKie <freshwatermodels@> wrote:
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> > > Gary,
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> > > Thanks, do you use one of these?
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> > > Jack
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> > > --- On Wed, 4/1/09, Gary Davison <gld@> wrote:
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> > > From: Gary Davison <gld@>
> > > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CNC router build
> > > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:28 AM
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> > > Look at one of these http://www.minicraf ttools.com/ 38481.html
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> > > They have better bearings and run quieter than a Dremel.
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> > > Gary
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> > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_ DRO@yahoogroups. com, Jack McKie <freshwatermodels@ ...> wrote:
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> > > > Dave,
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> > > > This is primarily a precision cnc router for patternmaking, not a mill for machining metal, so coolant won't be an issue. 
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> > > > I am aware of limitations of Dremel which is why I am looking for an alternative.  Yes, noise and heat come with high cutting speed.   I will probably be using carbide end mills exclusively.  Part of the plan is to build a sound enclosure but I don't know much about this.
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> > > > One alternative I am considering is using a mini-mill head with belt drive retrofit.   This would allow me quieter belt drive and R8 collets but the max rpm would be about 4000.
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> > > > I don't want to get into building a spindle so am looking for alternatives.  I am wondering if there is a die grinder or dremel type tool that has better bearings and might be quieter than a standard router motor.
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> > > > --- On Mon, 3/30/09, David LeVine <dlevine144@ ...> wrote:
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> > > > From: David LeVine <dlevine144@ ...>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_ DRO] CNC router build
> > > > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_ DRO@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 3:50 PM
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> > > > Jack Mc Kie wrote:
> > > > > <SNIP>I have a router and a Dremel tool that could be used but I am
> > > > > considering some alternative hopeing to keep noise level down. Noise
> > > > > is a concern I'm not sure how to deal with. I'm considering making a
> > > > > box of some sort to house the router in and line it with some sort of
> > > > > noise absorbing material. Any cost effective suggestions on how to
> > > > > deal with noise supression would be welcome!
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> > > > 1. At high speed, everything gets noisy.
> > > > 2. At high speed things get hot in a hurry.
> > > > 3. A router or Dremel is not a good, precision spindle.
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> > > > If you have machining available, consider that a good, fixed speed
> > > > spindle may be better for your needs.
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> > > > Put something like a 5200 or a pair of 7200 bearings on the tool end
> > > > (angular contact preloaded bearings ensure good positional accuracy) and
> > > > a slightly loose bearing on the other (so the shaft doesn't bind.) A
> > > > 7200 pair is rated for 29,000 RPM, IIRC. For higher speeds, ceramic
> > > > bearings work but are /*spendy! */Driven by a belt and an induction
> > > > motor, such a spindle will be quieter, more robust (last longer) and
> > > > more accurate, but heavier. Remember, lower speed is always better for
> > > > bearing life. Smaller bearings and open bearings (especially with oil
> > > > mist lubrication to remove heat) will run faster and last longer than
> > > > shielded or sealed bearings.
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> > > > With a VFD and a 3 phase motor, you even get the variable speed
> > > > advantages, but with a weight penalty. You may need a cooling fan if
> > > > the VFD runs the motor slower than 75% of the rated speed.
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> > > > --
> > > > David G. LeVine
> > > > Nashua, NH 03060
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