RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Long Acme threaded rod
Posted by
Andy Wander
on 2013-06-17 08:38:11 UTC
Hi Steve:
A couple of observations:
-even the fiber-reinforced timing belts do not really stretch much.
-More powerful steppers usually go slower, and for a router, you usually
want speed.
Andy Wander
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From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Greenfield
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:26 AM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO Mailing List
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Long Acme threaded rod
Try not to laugh...
I'm working on designing and building a CNC mill/engraver. I'd like it to
have a cut volume of approximately 1000x1500x100mm (about 3ft by 5ft by 4
inches) that can cut aluminum plate and hardwood, at most. I expect to take
multiple passes to cut through an aluminum plate.
I'm basing the design on the ShapeOko machine sized up, using 8020 in the
25mm size with Openrail hardcoat and grooved steel ball or delrin bearings
rather than ground rods and linear bearings. The Y travel will have two
steppers driving it.
Something like this, except the Y rails will be fully supported by another
piece of 8020 extrusion bolted alongside and the 8020 along the front and
back will be raised so I can slide a longer sheet in:
http://powercordlabs.com/1200mm-x-1200mm-shapeoko-build/
Openrail:
http://openbuildspartstore.com/openrail-hard-coat/
The ShapeOko uses timing belts to move things, but for the size I want, I am
worried about stretching. So I'm planning on using Acme rod. However, I'm
worried about a 1500mm long Acme rod whipping. I already have some 6ft
1/2-10 and there are anti-backlash Delrin nuts available, but that seems
thin for such a long rod.
I have considered ballscrews, but the price is fairly high and it is cheaper
to get a more powerful stepper to make up the power loss. Although if there
will be a significant performance difference, I'll save a bit longer. I am
not trying for 0.5 thou cut accuracy. I'll be cutting aluminum panels for
equipment builds (slots for slide pots, holes for controls and buttons,
holes for displays), and engraving/2-1/2D machining of plywood, hardwoods,
machineable wax, plastics, etc. Probably the parts requiring the most
accuracy will be wooden gears for clocks, driven by a stepper motor.
Am I completely off track? There are also steel wire reinforced timing belts
available.
Steve Greenfield AE7HD
http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenjgreenfield
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A couple of observations:
-even the fiber-reinforced timing belts do not really stretch much.
-More powerful steppers usually go slower, and for a router, you usually
want speed.
Andy Wander
_____
From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Greenfield
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:26 AM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO Mailing List
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Long Acme threaded rod
Try not to laugh...
I'm working on designing and building a CNC mill/engraver. I'd like it to
have a cut volume of approximately 1000x1500x100mm (about 3ft by 5ft by 4
inches) that can cut aluminum plate and hardwood, at most. I expect to take
multiple passes to cut through an aluminum plate.
I'm basing the design on the ShapeOko machine sized up, using 8020 in the
25mm size with Openrail hardcoat and grooved steel ball or delrin bearings
rather than ground rods and linear bearings. The Y travel will have two
steppers driving it.
Something like this, except the Y rails will be fully supported by another
piece of 8020 extrusion bolted alongside and the 8020 along the front and
back will be raised so I can slide a longer sheet in:
http://powercordlabs.com/1200mm-x-1200mm-shapeoko-build/
Openrail:
http://openbuildspartstore.com/openrail-hard-coat/
The ShapeOko uses timing belts to move things, but for the size I want, I am
worried about stretching. So I'm planning on using Acme rod. However, I'm
worried about a 1500mm long Acme rod whipping. I already have some 6ft
1/2-10 and there are anti-backlash Delrin nuts available, but that seems
thin for such a long rod.
I have considered ballscrews, but the price is fairly high and it is cheaper
to get a more powerful stepper to make up the power loss. Although if there
will be a significant performance difference, I'll save a bit longer. I am
not trying for 0.5 thou cut accuracy. I'll be cutting aluminum panels for
equipment builds (slots for slide pots, holes for controls and buttons,
holes for displays), and engraving/2-1/2D machining of plywood, hardwoods,
machineable wax, plastics, etc. Probably the parts requiring the most
accuracy will be wooden gears for clocks, driven by a stepper motor.
Am I completely off track? There are also steel wire reinforced timing belts
available.
Steve Greenfield AE7HD
http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenjgreenfield
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