Re: Dremel alternatives
Posted by
ballendo@y...
on 2001-03-16 15:47:34 UTC
Ian,
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machines. He's on this list, and if you do a Yahoo search of Seagull
technologies, his website (with pics) will show up.
screws! But they DO have plated allthread. If this is what yours has,
you need to run a die down the length to clean up the plating.
23 motors can be had for 5 bucks, and will be a MUCH better choice.
power from the stepper. And 12 volts will limit the speed, since the
stepper will already be turning relatively slowly, compared to a
higher voltage drive.
needs hi rpms, and fast feeds to prevent epoxy smear. Pcb milling is
similarly improved by higher speeds/feeds. And with a "non-stiff"
machine, taking light cuts can make the cutter work HARDER, as it
deflects to a scraping/rubbing action instead of cutting. For copper,
this is bad.
rotary "burr" type cutter). Also, it will require a stiffer machine
than your other mentioned apps. Use aluminum, and save the steel
(Tin) for your Mk. III machine!
5 buck, 60 oz. steppers with 1/4-20 or 3/8-16 allthread running from
a 12v, unipolar drive. So it can be a good choice for a Mk. I
machine! You need to keep in mind that the WEIGHT of the tool will
have a large effect on your machine, which will be non-stiff and low
powered (axis drive). Dremels are light.
The lam trimmers or electric die grinders will be better for a Mk.II
machine... But much heavier than a dremel.
I'd Keep It Simple on the first go-around. Have fun!
Ballendo
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> Firstly I'd better describe what I'm building. It will be a fairlyNeil Gillies has built a couple (one bridge, one gantry) of MDF
> low end, bridge style machine, built out of MDF.
machines. He's on this list, and if you do a Yahoo search of Seagull
technologies, his website (with pics) will show up.
> For example, the "screws" are going to be stainless steelYou must have a hi-end home depot. The ones near me dont have SS
> threaded rods available at home depot.
screws! But they DO have plated allthread. If this is what yours has,
you need to run a die down the length to clean up the plating.
> Steppers for this one are only going to be Nema 17 size, 12v (yea IThese ARE too small (based on what you say you wnt to do below). Size
> know probably too small)
23 motors can be had for 5 bucks, and will be a MUCH better choice.
> Am I correct in assuming that gearing, or gear and timing belt typeYes. However, a gear reduction, or timing belt drive will ALSO "cost"
> options increase my torque forces similarly?].
power from the stepper. And 12 volts will limit the speed, since the
stepper will already be turning relatively slowly, compared to a
higher voltage drive.
>I plan on very light "bites", slow speed, and multiple passes.Your two statements above are at odds with each other! PCB drilling
>
> Secondly, my applications. I want to try everything! :{) Well
> really, a little circuit board milling and drilling.
needs hi rpms, and fast feeds to prevent epoxy smear. Pcb milling is
similarly improved by higher speeds/feeds. And with a "non-stiff"
machine, taking light cuts can make the cutter work HARDER, as it
deflects to a scraping/rubbing action instead of cutting. For copper,
this is bad.
> Oh yea - cutting some shapes out of tin (roof flashing type ofThis will "want" to be done at LOW spindle speed (unless using a
>thickness).
rotary "burr" type cutter). Also, it will require a stiffer machine
than your other mentioned apps. Use aluminum, and save the steel
(Tin) for your Mk. III machine!
> Thirdly, budget and choices. I want to keep the tool down to aroundLOTS of entry level machines use a Dremel successfully! Direct drive
> $100 Canadian or lower if possible. Listed below are some of the
> choices I've seen around, along with some of the pluses and minuses
> of each.
> Ian C.
5 buck, 60 oz. steppers with 1/4-20 or 3/8-16 allthread running from
a 12v, unipolar drive. So it can be a good choice for a Mk. I
machine! You need to keep in mind that the WEIGHT of the tool will
have a large effect on your machine, which will be non-stiff and low
powered (axis drive). Dremels are light.
The lam trimmers or electric die grinders will be better for a Mk.II
machine... But much heavier than a dremel.
I'd Keep It Simple on the first go-around. Have fun!
Ballendo
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