Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2001-07-09 19:58:00 UTC
info.host@... wrote:
about 340 V DC, and then has a set of power transistors that chop the
DC up into roughly square-wave AC at 25 KHz or so. This is then run through
a roughly 20:1 step-down transformer and a full-wave rectifier.
This then produces the DC output, which is electronically regulated for
proper voltages and currents. For "square-wave" TIG, this is then
followed by an electronic switch that flips the polarity of the electrodes
at a low frequency (a few hundred Hz) for the required duty-cycle
to keep the electrode clean.
So, an inverter welder is quite different from a rectifier. The other
difference
is that the power transformer, operating at 25 KHz instead of 60 Hz, can
be almost 400 times smaller and lighter!
Jon
> Hello,No, most MIG's, especially the cheap ones, are AC. There is no rectifier.
>
> Since so many of you on here know a lot about electronics I was
> wondering if you could explain something for me. I an thinking about welders
> and how MIG sets, the cheaper ones, have a number of preset current
> settings. But on DC TIG welders with an inverter they have an infinite
> control of current through a thyristor. Are the cheaper MIG sets controled
> by a rectifier that just cuts off the top of the ac waves and sticks it on
> the bottom?
> If that's what a rectifier does then how is the inverterAn "inverter" welder has a big recitifer that converts input power to
> different? I have seen bridge rectifiers and understand they use the four
> diodes in that 45 degree pattern to cut the waveform up. I'm sorry it's off
> topic but you are the people I'd expect to know about this.
about 340 V DC, and then has a set of power transistors that chop the
DC up into roughly square-wave AC at 25 KHz or so. This is then run through
a roughly 20:1 step-down transformer and a full-wave rectifier.
This then produces the DC output, which is electronically regulated for
proper voltages and currents. For "square-wave" TIG, this is then
followed by an electronic switch that flips the polarity of the electrodes
at a low frequency (a few hundred Hz) for the required duty-cycle
to keep the electrode clean.
So, an inverter welder is quite different from a rectifier. The other
difference
is that the power transformer, operating at 25 KHz instead of 60 Hz, can
be almost 400 times smaller and lighter!
Jon
Discussion Thread
info.host@b...
2001-07-09 19:19:43 UTC
Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
Jon Elson
2001-07-09 19:58:00 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
Doug Harrison
2001-07-09 20:12:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
Doug Harrison
2001-07-09 20:19:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
info.host@b...
2001-07-09 22:46:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
Randy Gordon-Gilmore
2001-07-09 23:03:16 UTC
Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
Jon Elson
2001-07-09 23:27:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
Jon Elson
2001-07-09 23:37:36 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
Intellicorp001
2001-07-10 01:30:34 UTC
Re: Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
info.host@b...
2001-07-10 01:36:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
Carol & Jerry Jankura
2001-07-10 05:20:55 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
Tim Goldstein
2001-07-10 06:57:20 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
brian
2001-07-10 17:28:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
Randy Gordon-Gilmore
2001-07-12 17:00:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
JanRwl@A...
2001-07-12 19:00:11 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
alenz@c...
2001-07-12 19:09:24 UTC
Re: Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
Jon Elson
2001-07-12 20:26:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
Randy Gordon-Gilmore
2001-07-12 21:22:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
Randy Gordon-Gilmore
2001-07-12 21:27:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
Carol & Jerry Jankura
2001-07-13 05:28:34 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Not-so-off-topic: rectifiers
Garry & Maxine Foster
2001-07-15 06:05:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Off topic, inverters / rectifiers
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2001-07-15 10:47:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Off topic, inverters / rectifiers