Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Expectations, bridgeport

Ian I can not agree enough with the last bit about the neighbours. We have
this woman living next door who watches us come in from her window if it's
after 10pm. A while back some people on the hobbicast group and I where
filling balloons with hydrogen made from caustic soda and tin foil. I
started filling them in my yard (Bin bag sizes). She appeared at her gate
behind one of the bushes. I saw her and went back into the house to avoid
talking. I came back out to pick up some things that needed to go in, she
was still there. I come back out, still there, so I looked at her to let her
know I could see her.

"Oh, oh! John! I thought it was a villain."
"Ahh, okay. It's just me."
"I just, I didn't see you and though you might be breaking in."

So a villain breaks into someone's house, and on leaving starts to fill
humorously shaped hydrogen balloons in the yard? So long as the mill isn't
breaking to 100db level she'll put up with it whether she wants to or not. I
was accused of breaking her asbestos roof when I was painting ours with
rubber paint earlier.

I am almost certain any bigger mill I get will be triple phase, which I do
not have. I will therefore have to invest in a triple phase static converter
for £120 - 200, depending on the HP. Or a new spindle motor, whichever is
the cheapest; the new spindle motor seems to be. A 2hp single phase 220v 2
pole is £99 and has a top RPM of 3000.

Hydraulics, I saw one ages ago, I doubt I ever will at an auction and I'm
definitely not buying one. High pressure oil hoses, rabbit with teeth and a
few hours to spare, pyromaniac little brother who set his feet on fire this
year.

I found that the auction was the last the guy was doing this year and all of
the stuff went, so I've returned to my searching for sales on the internet.
I have someone who is willing to do a deal on a Beaver VBRP which he's
listed at £850 but it's been there for well over a year. I spoke to the Ian
at AHHA who said that unless I need the long transverse of the VBRP it'd be
better getting a Bridgeport. I haven't been able to find the transverse
sizes of the VBRP but it doesn't look like it's light years more than a
series 1. I have been told Beaver made good machines and the fact I am able
to get hold of the actual iron for a sub-four digit figure is appealing. The
deal may give me free (I use that word loosely) delivery if I keep the mill
at £850 in my mind.

As to the property value, if my mill lowers it substantially you just wait
until that school is built. My school is almost all boys, less than 300m
down there road where the lower site used to be is going to be an all girls
school. People are already selling their houses on that road. Everyone
around here seems to be DIY, every day there are two angle grinders going,
mitre saws or jack hammers. You should visit B&Q just as it shuts, there are
traffic jams coming out the car park. There is one guy in particular up the
road who'd absolutely love to use the mill I think. He has an angle grinder
and a stick welder and can knock together just about anything he needs and
more, a testament to ye olde hard work.

John

> Hi,
>
> There is one consideration on this which might have been overlooked but

may

> just have some relevance (says he, who has not yet managed to find himself

a

> suitable big mill!)
> Any machine which would appeal to the average 'model engineer' usually
> commands a premium on its price - i.e. it is likely to be

disproportionately

> more expensive than a bigger industrial machine on the second-hand market.
> The same goes for a lot of tooling and I can often buy big lathe tool bits
> at car boot sales for less than ones which would fit a Myford.
> I would, however, caution John to be very selective about what he does

buy.

> Any big machine which has hydraulics or is powered by anything other than
> single phase electricity is likely to be problematic. Without knowing

John's

> situation it is hard to advise properly, but, in the majority of British
> residential areas it is virtually impossible to persuade the electricity
> company to lay in 3-phase and so this should be checked before any

purchase.

> Also, don't forget the neighbours - the appearance of a large lorry with a
> 'significant' machine dangling from the end of a crane jib is likely to
> raise complaints of 'industrialisation', undue noise, and reduction in
> property values even before the thing is wired up!
>
> Ian
> --
> Ian W. Wright
> Sheffield UK
> www.iw63.freeserve.co.uk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus & Eva" <implmex@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 24 August 2001 04:08
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Expectations, bridgeport
>
>
> > Hi John:
> > With all due respect, I don't think it's bollocks at all.
> > Remember, the "poor little lad" has no machinery or tools to speak of

yet;

> > this is going to be his first machinery purchase.
>
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