RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re:Re: Re: Optimizing cutting paths - The proof
Posted by
Gail & Bryan Harries
on 2001-09-02 14:41:43 UTC
Art,
I will have to back you up on this one...
A participant on this/any group, when fronted with a question they feel
capable of answering, may only give the minimal of information to satisfy
the question as asked, but a "lively discourse" (as you so well put it) on
the subject will bring out information that may otherwise never seen the
light of day... as participants play the one-up-man-ship game, more in-depth
and diverse information comes out that we all benefit from... so long as
those partaking do not take offence, no harm is done, but great benefit is
gained for all...
Another point to be noted here, is that "tone of voice" is one thing that we
are deprived of in this arena, where by making it very difficult (if not
imposable) to judge the vein of any comment made... if you are a person
inclined to take comments in a negative way, then I'm sure you would be
easily be offended in a list environment... Take this from one who conducted
an internet romance from opposite sides of the globe, and successfully
navigated those treacherous communication waters to a very happy marriage...
Personally, I take most comments from those whom I do not know well enough,
with a grain of salt, and look for group consensus on a subject... this is
why the participation of all is so valuable... a beginner may have a view
point on a question/subject that opens the eyes of others to look in a
different direction for the answer, or even a new answer to an old problem
with existing answers...
And finally, I don't think any engineering environment is a place that's
padded with cotton wool... by default you have to weather the on slaught nay
sayers to validate your theories and/or prove your point...
We should all be born with hides like a rhino's :)
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Art Fenerty [mailto:fenerty@...]
Bob:
You shouldn't take the "flaming and argueing" seriously. There are
many types of people, and alot of us ( I do include myself) learn more and
absorb more through a process that includes good natured bickering. None of
the arguing here really causes any bad feelings I don't think. At least I
like to hope so. It is the nature of expertise that most experts in any
field "don't suffer fools gladly" as they used to say. Take it as more of a
good natured argument. In the end, those of us who participated, learned
more about the others viewpoints and some of that information will have set
firmly in the minds of all concerned. All in all a net gain of information.
If you had simply gotten an off-line advice you might never have known that
there are several viewpoints to any question, none of them entirely correct,
or entirely wrong.
I must admit, that I (probably like many others on this list) simply
love an argument and find I benefit much more through a process that
includes lively discourse. The tone of that discourse may get alittle heavy
at times, but I think an overall respect for others opinions and knowledge
is understood. I'd much rather get an opinion from someone who has a depth
of feeling about his beliefs, those opinions tend to have the most value.
(Just my 2 cents on people getting pissed at the tone of a slight
disagreement)
Art
I will have to back you up on this one...
A participant on this/any group, when fronted with a question they feel
capable of answering, may only give the minimal of information to satisfy
the question as asked, but a "lively discourse" (as you so well put it) on
the subject will bring out information that may otherwise never seen the
light of day... as participants play the one-up-man-ship game, more in-depth
and diverse information comes out that we all benefit from... so long as
those partaking do not take offence, no harm is done, but great benefit is
gained for all...
Another point to be noted here, is that "tone of voice" is one thing that we
are deprived of in this arena, where by making it very difficult (if not
imposable) to judge the vein of any comment made... if you are a person
inclined to take comments in a negative way, then I'm sure you would be
easily be offended in a list environment... Take this from one who conducted
an internet romance from opposite sides of the globe, and successfully
navigated those treacherous communication waters to a very happy marriage...
Personally, I take most comments from those whom I do not know well enough,
with a grain of salt, and look for group consensus on a subject... this is
why the participation of all is so valuable... a beginner may have a view
point on a question/subject that opens the eyes of others to look in a
different direction for the answer, or even a new answer to an old problem
with existing answers...
And finally, I don't think any engineering environment is a place that's
padded with cotton wool... by default you have to weather the on slaught nay
sayers to validate your theories and/or prove your point...
We should all be born with hides like a rhino's :)
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Art Fenerty [mailto:fenerty@...]
Bob:
You shouldn't take the "flaming and argueing" seriously. There are
many types of people, and alot of us ( I do include myself) learn more and
absorb more through a process that includes good natured bickering. None of
the arguing here really causes any bad feelings I don't think. At least I
like to hope so. It is the nature of expertise that most experts in any
field "don't suffer fools gladly" as they used to say. Take it as more of a
good natured argument. In the end, those of us who participated, learned
more about the others viewpoints and some of that information will have set
firmly in the minds of all concerned. All in all a net gain of information.
If you had simply gotten an off-line advice you might never have known that
there are several viewpoints to any question, none of them entirely correct,
or entirely wrong.
I must admit, that I (probably like many others on this list) simply
love an argument and find I benefit much more through a process that
includes lively discourse. The tone of that discourse may get alittle heavy
at times, but I think an overall respect for others opinions and knowledge
is understood. I'd much rather get an opinion from someone who has a depth
of feeling about his beliefs, those opinions tend to have the most value.
(Just my 2 cents on people getting pissed at the tone of a slight
disagreement)
Art
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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re:Re: Re: Optimizing cutting paths - The proof
Gail & Bryan Harries
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RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re:Re: Re: Optimizing cutting paths - The proof
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2001-09-02 14:49:51 UTC
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2001-09-02 15:00:12 UTC
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