RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Why is a Gcode standard important???
Posted by
Gail & Bryan Harries
on 2001-12-26 12:52:12 UTC
Well put Ballendo...
To add a glaring example, we could look at the English language itself...
this could well be called a "standard" for international communication...
yet we only have to look at the American way of spelling many of the
"words", and the way "words" are used in sentences, to see that the syntax
is NOT the same between all those whom use the "standard" language...
This is no different with "G" code... how the language is used and what it
means, is very dependant on the origin of the reader...
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: ballendo [mailto:ballendo@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 December, 2001 3:35 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Why is a Gcode standard important???
Doug,
Did you read my previous post? In it, I stated that there was not any
reason for any given INDIVIDUAL to adopt/desire a standard. I also
gave several reasons for a GROUP to desire/adopt a standard.
Standardising "conversational" would be excellent!
Saying that the machines themselves are not standardised is like
saying that pc's are not standardised. Of course, there are
variations in computers, but the "standard" of the desktop, which is
MS office, seems not only to work on this extremely large variety of
machines, and also doing a large variety of tasks. (leaving MS
bashing out of this discussion)
In any large group sharing a language, it is unlikely for any given
person to need ALL the languages "words". But there will be a core
group of words that can reasonably be expected to be used by most
everyone. And these will be standardised.
Also, The language "extensions" used by fringe elements of the group,
will also become part of the "standard", even though the majority is
not using them most of the time. But if my work takes me into the
medical field, I will begin to use a new (to me) part of
the "standard".
Why do all airline pilots speak english for communication, and use
alpha/bravo/charlie/etc; regardless of their native tongue?
Going one step farther, why standardise any language? We could all
learn to speak whatever enough of us decided to use to communicate...
Example: Grog glick been haug! (If you were part of my group you'd
know what it means<g>) Standardisation simply increases the size of
the "agreeing" group, with better/quicker/clearer communication as
the result! Can you see that the same positive results become
available to the machining industry by standardising its "language",
in this case the code that runs the machines?
Hope this helps.
Ballendo
To add a glaring example, we could look at the English language itself...
this could well be called a "standard" for international communication...
yet we only have to look at the American way of spelling many of the
"words", and the way "words" are used in sentences, to see that the syntax
is NOT the same between all those whom use the "standard" language...
This is no different with "G" code... how the language is used and what it
means, is very dependant on the origin of the reader...
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: ballendo [mailto:ballendo@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 December, 2001 3:35 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Why is a Gcode standard important???
Doug,
Did you read my previous post? In it, I stated that there was not any
reason for any given INDIVIDUAL to adopt/desire a standard. I also
gave several reasons for a GROUP to desire/adopt a standard.
Standardising "conversational" would be excellent!
Saying that the machines themselves are not standardised is like
saying that pc's are not standardised. Of course, there are
variations in computers, but the "standard" of the desktop, which is
MS office, seems not only to work on this extremely large variety of
machines, and also doing a large variety of tasks. (leaving MS
bashing out of this discussion)
In any large group sharing a language, it is unlikely for any given
person to need ALL the languages "words". But there will be a core
group of words that can reasonably be expected to be used by most
everyone. And these will be standardised.
Also, The language "extensions" used by fringe elements of the group,
will also become part of the "standard", even though the majority is
not using them most of the time. But if my work takes me into the
medical field, I will begin to use a new (to me) part of
the "standard".
Why do all airline pilots speak english for communication, and use
alpha/bravo/charlie/etc; regardless of their native tongue?
Going one step farther, why standardise any language? We could all
learn to speak whatever enough of us decided to use to communicate...
Example: Grog glick been haug! (If you were part of my group you'd
know what it means<g>) Standardisation simply increases the size of
the "agreeing" group, with better/quicker/clearer communication as
the result! Can you see that the same positive results become
available to the machining industry by standardising its "language",
in this case the code that runs the machines?
Hope this helps.
Ballendo
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "doug98105" <dougrasmussen@c...> wrote:
> Group,
>
> There's been much discussion about what is "standard" and what is
> not.
>
> My questions....Why so much concern over standardizing Gcodes? Why
> does it matter? Who is adversely affected by non-standard Gcode?
>
> What about conversational programming? Why no efforts (to my
> knowledge) to standardize that?
>
> The machines themselves are not "standardized" so even with
standard
> Gcode they'll still perform differently.
>
> thanks,
>
> Doug
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2001-12-25 09:13:35 UTC
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2001-12-26 12:52:12 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Why is a Gcode standard important???
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2001-12-26 13:42:09 UTC
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2001-12-26 14:43:02 UTC
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2001-12-26 14:50:42 UTC
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2001-12-27 02:00:21 UTC
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2001-12-27 06:50:35 UTC
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2001-12-27 10:48:36 UTC
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2001-12-27 12:48:37 UTC
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