Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Group cnc software database wasRe: SOFTWARE

Ah,,, could be we are all a busy bunch !

I really even shouldn't be sitting here... Plenty I need to get done.

I have to go look for that FAQ section. I do not have good results when I go
to the actual Yahoo page for the group... My cookies are wrong..... My
browser isn't right... i typed in the wrong password..... I am beginning to
think it's NOT me ! Anyhow, the last time there I missed any reference to
faq.

Seeya,
Chris L

ballendo wrote:

> Chris,
>
> There's always "bookmarks" right next door to "database"...
>
> And also the group FAQ'S page...
>
> I'm a little disappointed that there aren't a lot more listings by
> now. It seems everyone wants something (based on the enthusiastic
> initial response), but many who have the information and/or
> experience to help don't seem to want to take the time...
>
> I also asked anyone and everyone to "weigh in" with what should be in
> a "cnc for dummies" book, and I've had TWO emails!!! Out of close to
> two-THOUSAND members???
>
> Design by committee fails again,
>
> Ballendo
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., Chris L <datac@l...> wrote:
> > I finally found time to get over and have a look. Gee..... I am
> feeling real
> > bad though ! No option to put in Machine Plans ! :-(
> >
> > Chris L
> > (data-cut)
> >
> > ballendo wrote:
> >
> > > Larry,
> > >
> > > Go to our groups website at:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO/
> > >
> > > On the left of the screen are several "features" provided by yahoo
> > > for our group; one of which is Database. Click on it, then click
> on
> > > the cnc software table link when it opens...
> > >
> > > Ballendo
> > >
> > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "ledinger" <ledinger@r...> wrote:
> > > > How do you view the list?
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "ballendo" <ballendo@y...>
> > > > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y...>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:21 AM
> > > > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Group cnc software database wasRe:
> > > SOFTWARE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello list,
> > > > >
> > > > > I need your input!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just set up a database on the group website to give a
> location
> > > for
> > > > > what I proposed in my response to Woodknack.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is, a comprehensive listing of cnc software. It is meant
> to
> > > be a
> > > > > STARTING point for an investigation by either new or
> experienced
> > > > > folk, and includes fields for:
> > > > >
> > > > > TITLE (including version where appropriate; as when
> functionality
> > > > > across the 3 defined categories changes)
> > > > >
> > > > > USE(S) (described as 1=Cad, 2=Toolpath/CAM, and 3=Motor
> control)
> > > > >
> > > > > PRICE (using the F/$/$$/$$$/$$$$/etc. for Free/$1-9/$10-
> 99/...)
> > > > >
> > > > > MANUFACTURER / AUTHOR
> > > > >
> > > > > LINK / URL (if the link is complete, it IS "clickable"
> > > > >
> > > > > I added two listings as examples. Group members can add
> listing
> > > (s) by
> > > > > going to the group home page, click on database, click on cnc
> > > > > software; then click add record.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can see that this will not deal with certain types of "gray
> > > areas"
> > > > > between product functions. But I think it could be a very
> useful
> > > tool
> > > > > for the group. Currently the database creator(Ballendo),Tim
> and
> > > Bill
> > > > > can edit listings. ANY MEMBER can ADD listings.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please have a look, (and provide your input!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ballendo
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. Some Questions:
> > > > > 1)How should we describe a MOTOR CONTROL program (3) that can
> > > import
> > > > > a non-native file (DXF,HPGL) and treat it as a toolpath, but
> which
> > > > > does not allow toolpath creation or modification??? Or allows
> > > > > some "massaging" of the imported file, but not toolpath
> creation?
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, Flashcut imports dxf "intelligently", so is it a
> 2,3
> > > or
> > > > > just a 3. My thoughts are that since flashcut allows editing
> of
> > > the
> > > > > resulting gcode, it is doing the work of toolpath (and will
> > > suffice
> > > > > for some), so I would give it the "2" as well as the "3".
> Master5
> > > is
> > > > > another example of a gray area; Does it include "toolpath"
> > > > > functionality? Well yes, but not with the same sort of control
> > > that
> > > > > FLashcut has... So should there be a distinction?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2)Do those in other countries have a dollar sign key? (I
> really
> > > don't
> > > > > want to see numerical prices on htis list, as small changes
> make
> > > > > their inclusion insignificant and misleading. The $'s method
> gives
> > > > > some room for interpretation, and relative cost is easily
> apparent
> > > > > between products)
> > > > >
> > > > > 3)The CAD section could easily overwhelm the database! Should
> > > there
> > > > > be "grounds" for including a s/w pkg. in this listing as
> > > > > being "appropriate" for cnc? What should decide?
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) I think the beauty of a list like this will be to keep it
> > > simple,
> > > > > and go for complete-ness of entries (Get ALL the cnc software;
> > > even
> > > > > the high-end stuff), but do NOT try to have all the answers
> here.
> > > > > Just enough to know if further investigation is necessary by
> > > defining
> > > > > some broad categories, and provide an easy route to get to any
> > > > > additional info... Your thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "ballendo" <ballendo@y...> wrote:
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > > P.S. To give you a bit of a starting point, here are a FEW
> > > popular
> > > > > > choices: (the numbers 1,2,3 are references to the programs'
> > > ability
> > > > > > to do the steps outlined above)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NOTE: This is not meant to be a comprehensive list, or in
> any
> > > > > > particular order. BUT it WOULD BE a useful thing to HAVE
> such a
> > > > > list
> > > > > > available to the group?, and as comprehensive as we could
> make
> > > it!
> > > > > > Maybe with a F/$/$$/$$$/$$$$/$$$$$ (dollar signs for digits;
> > > like
> > > > > > income, defining 'x-digit' pricing) like restaurant
> listings?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (others mentioned above left off this SHORT, INCOMPLETE
> list)
> > > > > > Intellicad (1)free
> > > > > > Vector (1,2)
> > > > > > Master5 (2,3)
> > > > > > Ace converter (2)
> > > > > > Flashcut (2,3)
> > > > > > CncPRO (3)
> > > > > > AhHa artisan (2,3)
> > > > > > EMC (3)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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