Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Posted by
alex
on 2002-11-05 12:10:05 UTC
Just want to address a cost issue: small power pack from
Princess - Auto -approx. $700 Canadian - $450 US.
Alex
Princess - Auto -approx. $700 Canadian - $450 US.
Alex
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From: Bill Vance <ccq@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] replacing feed screw with a hydraulic
cylinder
> On Tue Nov 5 09:53:55 2002, Jon Elson, <elson@...> wrote:
>
> >al5502 wrote:
> >
> >>Did somebody try to get rid of the feed screw all together
> >>and replace it with a hydraulic cylinder?
> >>At the first glance it may present several advantages:
> >>no backlash, big force at low cost.
> >>
> >>
> >We go through this every 6 months or so. It looks neat at first glance,
> >and if you
> >have lots of hydraulic gear around, might even be affordable.
> > Proportional (Moog)
> >valves are REALLY expensive, like $3000 and up! The hydraulic pumps are
> >expensive,
> >massively power-hungry, and LOUD! The hazards of a hydraulic leak at
> >3000 PSI
> >are very serious. You get oil injected under the skin, and it poisons
> >you. A flexible
> >line blowing off can also be dangerous. If there is any air in the
> >system, it tends to
> >go crazy with oscillation. The performance can be iffy, too, with
> >jitter and stick-slip
> >friction.
> >
> >I think if you add up all the parts costs, even surplus, you could go
> >out and buy a complete
> >ballscrew retrofit and servo drives new!
> >
> >Jon
>
> All too true, but here's a question:
>
> >From the accuracy/resolution standpoint, what about slapping an encoder
and
> ballscrew/acme thread/timing chain onto a hydraulic motor, and as a way to
> ditch some of the more complicated servo power supply/amplifier/control
issues?
> looks do-able, at least at first glance.
>
> Bill
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Discussion Thread
al5502
2002-11-05 06:30:34 UTC
replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Jon Elson
2002-11-05 09:52:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Bill Vance
2002-11-05 11:54:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-05 12:10:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
b564htf
2002-11-05 17:04:39 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
JanRwl@A...
2002-11-05 20:29:36 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Bill Vance
2002-11-05 21:18:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Jon Elson
2002-11-05 21:56:12 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Jon Elson
2002-11-05 22:35:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
wanliker@a...
2002-11-06 00:52:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Rose, Gary
2002-11-06 05:28:09 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
bjammin@i...
2002-11-06 05:53:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
dakota8833
2002-11-06 06:18:43 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-06 10:22:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Brian
2002-11-06 14:11:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-06 14:28:57 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-06 15:32:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-06 16:03:00 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-07 07:01:35 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-07 07:12:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Vajk Fekete
2002-11-07 07:32:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-07 09:45:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
bjammin@i...
2002-11-07 18:19:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-08 07:11:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
jim davies
2002-11-11 16:10:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
alex
2002-11-12 06:52:57 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
blown_mgb_v8
2002-11-29 17:43:03 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Ray Henry
2002-11-30 10:35:05 UTC
Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Marv Frankel
2002-11-30 15:05:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Jon Elson
2002-11-30 16:27:58 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Ray Henry
2002-12-01 07:25:29 UTC
Re: Re: Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Sven Peter
2002-12-01 11:03:39 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
blown_mgb_v8
2002-12-01 13:56:49 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
blown_mgb_v8
2002-12-01 14:06:07 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Bill Vance
2002-12-01 17:14:21 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Sven Peter
2002-12-02 04:58:34 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Ray Henry
2002-12-02 11:05:11 UTC
Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Jon Elson
2002-12-02 21:37:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Ray Henry
2002-12-03 06:22:09 UTC
Re: Re: Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
blown_mgb_v8
2002-12-03 20:30:12 UTC
Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Jon Elson
2002-12-04 10:01:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
blown_mgb_v8
2002-12-05 18:15:35 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Ray Henry
2002-12-06 07:32:46 UTC
Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
blown_mgb_v8 <jblackwood5@i...
2002-12-14 21:05:01 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
blown_mgb_v8 <jblackwood5@i...
2002-12-15 02:47:22 UTC
Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Mike Gann
2002-12-15 12:05:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
cisco_bits <iaing@n...
2002-12-15 12:55:08 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Ray Henry
2002-12-15 14:40:57 UTC
Re: Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Jon Elson
2002-12-16 01:29:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
blown_mgb_v8 <jblackwood5@i...
2002-12-16 20:17:33 UTC
Re: replacing feed screw with a hydraulic cylinder
Scott A. Stephens
2003-01-06 13:48:03 UTC
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