RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Posted by
Van Der Sandt Coert
on 2002-11-07 02:25:19 UTC
Oh OK - I suppose that the cards are over spec'd then. Good to know for
future ref.
Thanks
Coert
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:18 PM
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Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Yes, the SGS Thompson datasheet shows such a configuration; however,
they indicate a max of 3A (not 4A) DC and 3.5A repetitive (80:20 duty
cycle with n on time of 10ms) for that configuration. So it sounds to
me like the boards you have are a touch over spec'd according to the
words in the SGS Thompson datasheet.
Operating the drivers independently, the datasheet indicates 2A/phase
DC and 2.5A/phase repetitive. So by using an extra 297 to allow all 4
drivers to be current limited independently, it seems to me that you
could end up with 4A/phase DC and 5A/phase repetetive.
Anyone know of/tried such a configuration?
Regards,
Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:18 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Yes, the SGS Thompson datasheet shows such a configuration; however,
they indicate a max of 3A (not 4A) DC and 3.5A repetitive (80:20 duty
cycle with n on time of 10ms) for that configuration. So it sounds to
me like the boards you have are a touch over spec'd according to the
words in the SGS Thompson datasheet.
Operating the drivers independently, the datasheet indicates 2A/phase
DC and 2.5A/phase repetitive. So by using an extra 297 to allow all 4
drivers to be current limited independently, it seems to me that you
could end up with 4A/phase DC and 5A/phase repetetive.
Anyone know of/tried such a configuration?
Regards,
Tony
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> Hi Tonycontroller has
> I have four controllers (Avistep) that I bought surplus. Each
> four 298's and only one 297. Claimed current per phase is 4A. Icould never
> test this as none of my setups is that power hungry. My point isthat it is
> possible to get 4A / phase with 4 298 and one 297. Unfortunately Ido not
> have the circuit diagrams for the controllers only the physicalcontrollers.
>don't seem
> BTW : Has anyone ever heard of Avistep controllers? Net searches
> to be able to find any references to these controllers.of
>
> Cheers
> Coert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@j...]
>
>
> I was musing about the problem of getting better than 2A/phase out
> L298s (or better than 2.5A/phase out of Allegro 3977s). Thedatasheet
> for the L298 suggests that it is possible to use 2 L298s, anddeliver
> 3A/phase, by paralelling the two driver stages in one 298 to drivethe
> one motor coil, and paralelling the other driver stages to drive
> second coil. Presumably, you can't get the full 4A/phase when doing298
> this because of imperfect matching of the driver characteristics,
> which would cause one driver to take more of the current, and the
> current sense operates on the sum of the currents through each
> driver, leading to the danger of thermal runaway & release of the
> magic black smoke.
>
> It occurred to me that there is an alternative approach that could
> work with 8-wire motors; instead of wiring the L298 outputs in
> paralell, you use one half of a 298 to drive the A coil, and the
> other to drive the B coil; similarly, use one half of the second
> to drive the A' coil, and the other half to drive the B' coil.direction
> Unfortunately, you would have to double up on L297's as well, in
> order to control all four coils independently; the step-and-
> signals into these would simply be wired in paralell.paralell.
>
> All four drivers should then be able to operate up to their full
> 2A/phase, as they would be generating their own independent current
> sense signals back to their respective 297s. In effect, you would
> then have the same result as driving the 8-wire motor in bipolar
> paralell configuration, and would set the current limit on the
> drivers to 1/2 the value you would normally use for bipolar
>Addresses:
> Presumably this same approach could also be used with other driver
> chipsets such as the Allegro 3977, etc.
>
> So this would seem allow driving up to 4A/phase into 8-wire motors
> using two sets of 297/298, or 5A/phase using two 3977s.
>
> Can anyone see a problem with this approach (other than the cost of
> an extra chipset & ancilliary components per motor, and the
> limitation of using 8-wire motors)?
>
> Regards,
> Tony
>
>
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Discussion Thread
Tony Jeffree
2002-11-07 00:53:04 UTC
Higher power from L298 etc.
Van Der Sandt Coert
2002-11-07 01:59:21 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Higher power from L298 etc.
Tony Jeffree
2002-11-07 02:18:11 UTC
Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Van Der Sandt Coert
2002-11-07 02:25:19 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Tony Jeffree
2002-11-07 02:51:10 UTC
Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Tony Jeffree
2002-11-07 02:54:45 UTC
Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Mark Taft
2002-11-07 03:27:04 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Van Der Sandt Coert
2002-11-07 04:21:50 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Jon Elson
2002-11-07 09:14:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Tim Goldstein
2002-11-07 12:58:09 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Tony Jeffree
2002-11-07 19:31:14 UTC
Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Tony Jeffree
2002-11-07 19:32:06 UTC
Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
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2002-11-07 20:33:30 UTC
Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Tony Jeffree
2002-11-08 00:16:20 UTC
Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
JJ
2002-11-08 05:03:34 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
Van Der Sandt Coert
2002-11-08 06:04:48 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
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2002-11-08 06:48:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Higher power from L298 etc.
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2002-11-08 19:52:58 UTC
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2002-11-08 20:47:16 UTC
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2002-11-14 07:35:46 UTC
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