Batteries in Power Supply
Posted by
Bernard R <bwjarandall@c...
on 2003-01-21 10:34:58 UTC
In view of the recent interest in power supplies has anyone thought
about using batteries in place of capacitors in some of the larger
power supplies?
If you used 5 12Volt batteries and 1 6Volt that would give a nominal
66 volt, with a fully charged cell rising to 2.4 volt that would give
an additional 13.2Volt (33 cells @ .2V) for a total of 79.2 volt.
In a recent post Les Watts reports routinely seeing 60 amp peaks on
rapid starts, stops and sharp curves, I would think batteries could
cope with these conditions better than conventional caps.
I'm not sure if there would be any significant price difference
between caps and batteries, a 100Volt 15,000uF cap is almost $30 and
for a reasonably stiff supply you probably need at least 3 in
parallel. Without doing the math, I suspect you need more than 3 caps
to cope with 60 Amp peaks. 12V 4.5 A/Hour batteries are about $17 and
6V 4.2 A/H $9 for a total of $94. (12V 12 AH cost $$35)
I'm not sure how effectively batteries kill spikes, I would have
thought much better than caps, they should absorb overvoltage from
motors quite effectively.
I can see difficulties in disconnecting the batteries from the drives
at power off, but this should be offset by being able to use smaller
transformers.
Just a thought.
Bernard
about using batteries in place of capacitors in some of the larger
power supplies?
If you used 5 12Volt batteries and 1 6Volt that would give a nominal
66 volt, with a fully charged cell rising to 2.4 volt that would give
an additional 13.2Volt (33 cells @ .2V) for a total of 79.2 volt.
In a recent post Les Watts reports routinely seeing 60 amp peaks on
rapid starts, stops and sharp curves, I would think batteries could
cope with these conditions better than conventional caps.
I'm not sure if there would be any significant price difference
between caps and batteries, a 100Volt 15,000uF cap is almost $30 and
for a reasonably stiff supply you probably need at least 3 in
parallel. Without doing the math, I suspect you need more than 3 caps
to cope with 60 Amp peaks. 12V 4.5 A/Hour batteries are about $17 and
6V 4.2 A/H $9 for a total of $94. (12V 12 AH cost $$35)
I'm not sure how effectively batteries kill spikes, I would have
thought much better than caps, they should absorb overvoltage from
motors quite effectively.
I can see difficulties in disconnecting the batteries from the drives
at power off, but this should be offset by being able to use smaller
transformers.
Just a thought.
Bernard
Discussion Thread
Bernard R <bwjarandall@c...
2003-01-21 10:34:58 UTC
Batteries in Power Supply
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-01-21 11:13:46 UTC
Re: Batteries in Power Supply
Bernard R <bwjarandall@c...
2003-01-21 11:35:58 UTC
Re: Batteries in Power Supply
Kevin P. Martin
2003-01-21 11:58:09 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Batteries in Power Supply
Bernard R <bwjarandall@c...
2003-01-21 12:17:20 UTC
Re: Batteries in Power Supply
j.guenther
2003-01-21 12:27:53 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Batteries in Power Supply
Kevin P. Martin
2003-01-21 12:48:07 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Batteries in Power Supply
Carl Mikkelsen, Oasis
2003-01-21 13:30:57 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Batteries in Power Supply
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-01-21 13:36:44 UTC
Re: Batteries in Power Supply
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2003-01-21 13:41:18 UTC
Re: Batteries in Power Supply
sparkness2001 <mark@c...
2003-01-21 13:41:32 UTC
Re: Batteries in Power Supply
Bill Higdon
2003-01-21 14:54:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Batteries in Power Supply
turbulatordude <davemucha@j...
2003-01-21 16:00:43 UTC
Re: Batteries in Power Supply 0good in theory