A little experiment on demagnetization
Posted by
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
on 2003-02-04 08:45:15 UTC
Hi,
When I don't know for sure, I run an experiment:-)
1) I took two identical motors, (Rapidsyn 23D6209, 4.7A @ 1.7VDC)
connected in full-winding mode and set the current to 2.4A per phase
on a G201. The power supply was 25VDC.
2) I removed the rotor from one motor, waited 5 seconds, then
replaced it. The other motor was unmolested and would serve as the
baseline unit.
3) Both motors were then run on a dyno and data was taken at 5 revs
per second (1,000 full steps per second).
4) The baseline motor delivered 18.25W to the dyno at that speed for
a torque of 82.3 in-oz.
5) The molested motor delivered 11.75W for a torque of 52.9 in-oz.
6) The calculated torque (and power) output for the disassembled
motor was 64% of the intact motor.
7) I removed the rotor again, leaving it out overnight before
reassembling it for the second time and ran the above tests again.
There was no additional deterioration in performance.
Conclusions:
1) Demagnetization occurs immediately on disassembly.
2) The motor loses about 1/3 of its holding torque and and power as a
consequence.
This experiment applies to standard magnet motors. I have not tried
it on the newer, rare-earth magnet motors. I like the ones I have too
much to find out. Any volunteers?
Mariss
When I don't know for sure, I run an experiment:-)
1) I took two identical motors, (Rapidsyn 23D6209, 4.7A @ 1.7VDC)
connected in full-winding mode and set the current to 2.4A per phase
on a G201. The power supply was 25VDC.
2) I removed the rotor from one motor, waited 5 seconds, then
replaced it. The other motor was unmolested and would serve as the
baseline unit.
3) Both motors were then run on a dyno and data was taken at 5 revs
per second (1,000 full steps per second).
4) The baseline motor delivered 18.25W to the dyno at that speed for
a torque of 82.3 in-oz.
5) The molested motor delivered 11.75W for a torque of 52.9 in-oz.
6) The calculated torque (and power) output for the disassembled
motor was 64% of the intact motor.
7) I removed the rotor again, leaving it out overnight before
reassembling it for the second time and ran the above tests again.
There was no additional deterioration in performance.
Conclusions:
1) Demagnetization occurs immediately on disassembly.
2) The motor loses about 1/3 of its holding torque and and power as a
consequence.
This experiment applies to standard magnet motors. I have not tried
it on the newer, rare-earth magnet motors. I like the ones I have too
much to find out. Any volunteers?
Mariss
Discussion Thread
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-02-04 08:45:15 UTC
A little experiment on demagnetization
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-02-04 09:34:31 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
jeffalanp <xylotex@h...
2003-02-04 09:53:20 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Jon Elson
2003-02-04 10:35:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] A little experiment on demagnetization
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-02-04 10:35:53 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Tony Jeffree
2003-02-04 11:03:06 UTC
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2003-02-04 11:16:43 UTC
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2003-02-04 12:27:51 UTC
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Peter Seddon
2003-02-04 12:38:24 UTC
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2003-02-04 12:42:00 UTC
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2003-02-04 12:56:31 UTC
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2003-02-04 13:13:19 UTC
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2003-02-04 13:17:25 UTC
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2003-02-04 13:22:06 UTC
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2003-02-04 14:57:58 UTC
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2003-02-04 15:06:45 UTC
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2003-02-04 18:02:01 UTC
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2003-02-04 19:32:48 UTC
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2003-02-04 20:08:41 UTC
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2003-02-04 20:13:43 UTC
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2003-02-04 20:24:30 UTC
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2003-02-04 20:35:36 UTC
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2003-02-04 21:10:48 UTC
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2003-02-04 22:18:17 UTC
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2003-02-05 07:25:19 UTC
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2003-02-05 10:08:03 UTC
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2003-02-05 10:08:52 UTC
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2003-02-05 13:00:49 UTC
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2003-02-10 07:58:31 UTC
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2003-02-10 13:23:53 UTC
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2003-02-10 14:22:19 UTC
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2003-02-11 01:30:58 UTC
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2003-02-11 04:27:13 UTC
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2003-02-12 07:36:21 UTC
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