Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Posted by
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
on 2003-02-04 12:56:31 UTC
Jeff,
1) Yes. Do it in a clean area so stuff doesn't get dragged into the
motor.
2) Yes, but what's the point? Weigh the 1% or so performance gain
against the likelyhood of an accidental "oops" situation. It doesn't
make any sense to me.
Mariss
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "jeffalanp <xylotex@h...>"
<xylotex@h...> wrote:
1) Yes. Do it in a clean area so stuff doesn't get dragged into the
motor.
2) Yes, but what's the point? Weigh the 1% or so performance gain
against the likelyhood of an accidental "oops" situation. It doesn't
make any sense to me.
Mariss
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "jeffalanp <xylotex@h...>"
<xylotex@h...> wrote:
> Hi Mariss,taken?
>
> OK, no conclusions this time, only questions:
>
> 1) Can you safely open a stepper motor (without removing the rotor)
> and not loose magnetization? If so what precautions should be
>in-
> 2) Can a 6-wire motor be opened and rewired to make it 8-wire, and
> maintain full magnetization, if necessary precautions are taken?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mariss Freimanis
> <mariss92705@y...>" <mariss92705@y...> wrote:
> > Jeff,
> >
> > That's jumping to conclusions. I only know for sure about the 53
> > oz motor because I monkeyed with it. It's my conjecture the 82 in-as
> oz
> > motor "may" have been disassembled. How much, how far, I have no
> clue
> > because I wasn't there. The evidence is circumstantial.
> >
> > Just removing the end cap should have no negative effect as long
> > the rotor stays entirely within the stator. I can't say whateffect
> > partially removing it would have but it certainly can't help.You
> > Touching the stator isn't the problem, opening the air-gap is.
> > can have the rotor touch the stator all day.<xylotex@h...>"
> >
> > I'll stand behind the 33% number though I have reason to suspect
> it's
> > more like 50%. The consequence is either bad or worse; it's a
> > distinction without a difference.
> >
> > Mariss
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "jeffalanp
> > <xylotex@h...> wrote:touch
> > > Hi Mariss,
> > >
> > > It looks like your emperical evidece:
> > >
> > > 106 in-oz Unmolested Motor
> > > 82 in-oz Opened (but perhaps rotor not removed? <NEAT>)
> > > 53 in-oz Opended (rotor removed)
> > >
> > > suggests that
> > > 1) Just openeing the motor to look at/play with the wires
> (leaving
> > > rotor remaining inside?) can cause a significant torque loss.
> > > Question: Is this possibly becasue the rotor was allowed to
> > themagnetization?
> > > stator? If the the rotor were somehow kept from comming in
> contact
> > > with the stator when opened, might it retain full
> > >the
> > > 2) Disassembling it essentailly can cut torque in half. Again
> > > question: if the rotor were to be removed without touching the
> > > stator, would is loose as much torque.
> > >
> > > Any comments on the above?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
Discussion Thread
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-02-04 08:45:15 UTC
A little experiment on demagnetization
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-02-04 09:34:31 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
jeffalanp <xylotex@h...
2003-02-04 09:53:20 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Jon Elson
2003-02-04 10:35:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] A little experiment on demagnetization
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2003-02-04 10:35:53 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Tony Jeffree
2003-02-04 11:03:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] A little experiment on demagnetization
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-02-04 11:16:43 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
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2003-02-04 12:27:51 UTC
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2003-02-04 12:38:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] A little experiment on demagnetization
Peter Seddon
2003-02-04 12:42:00 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] A little experiment on demagnetization
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-02-04 12:56:31 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
jeffalanp <xylotex@h...
2003-02-04 13:13:19 UTC
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2003-02-04 13:17:25 UTC
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Myron Cherry
2003-02-04 13:22:06 UTC
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2003-02-04 14:57:58 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
mayfieldtm <mayfiet@i...
2003-02-04 15:06:45 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
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2003-02-04 18:02:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] A little experiment on demagnetization
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2003-02-04 19:32:48 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Jerry Kimberlin
2003-02-04 20:08:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Raymond Heckert
2003-02-04 20:13:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] A little experiment on demagnetization
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2003-02-04 20:24:30 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
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2003-02-04 20:35:36 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-02-04 21:10:48 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
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2003-02-04 22:18:17 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Ray Henry
2003-02-05 07:25:19 UTC
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2003-02-05 10:08:03 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
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2003-02-05 10:08:52 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Mariss Freimanis <mariss92705@y...
2003-02-05 13:00:49 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
turbulatordude <davemucha@j...
2003-02-10 07:58:31 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
mayfieldtm <mayfiet@i...
2003-02-10 13:23:53 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
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2003-02-10 14:18:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
turbulatordude <davemucha@j...
2003-02-10 14:22:19 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
Ian W. Wright
2003-02-11 01:30:58 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
turbulatordude <davemucha@j...
2003-02-11 04:27:13 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization
ballendo <ballendo@y...
2003-02-12 07:36:21 UTC
Re: A little experiment on demagnetization