Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] EMC-BDI is not my friend....

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From: "Paul" <no.spam27@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] EMC-BDI is not my friend....


> On Saturday 13 September 2003 2:57 am, Vince Negrete wrote:
> > They are all great versions and BDI-Live seems so automated for its
small
> > packaged format that seems to only be installed in memory, BUT....
Theres
> > always a butt..
> >
> > It seems not one of these people have considered updating video
drivers...
> > Maybe I'm missing something and there is a RPM of drivers that I need???
>
> BDI-Live uses the latest set of released drivers from xfree86.org.
Upgrading
> BDI-2.xx and BDI-TNG to uses these is NOT a trivial task - There is
neither
> the man power or resources to devote.

I didnt do any upgrading as it seems they load and operate very different
from each other. I just wiped the drive and attempted another reload each
time.
(Clean Slate...) I am using whats pretty much Plainly available to me. I
didnt know there was upgrades available anyway? :)
I'll have to checkout xfree86.org as you mentioned and see if I can get
lucky.


> > SUSE-Linux installs great and Automatically configures my video (which
is
> > an On-the-Motherboard VIA video) as a Trident Cyberblade/i1 with
resolution
> > of 1280x1024 and Color Depth of 16bit w/ no 3D Accel. This driver works
> > great! I wish there was a way of importing it into Redhat 7.2 or any of
> > the versions of EMC, but I cant find it and dont know what file to
> > configure if I do find it. What would I configure so that Xconfigurator
> > see's it?
>
> Two points here... 1) SuSE has quite likely tweaked XFree86 in some areas
and
> have a few enhancements in the hardware detection. 2) EMC is only an
> application that runs under linux (like Turbocnc runs under DOS).


You mentioned the Tweak thing in an earlier message. Being a Noob to Linux
I see this as, SUSE changed some of the Xfree86 sources to fit their Tweaked
Kernel, right?
I understand the EMC part but making the Kernel Realtime and making that
Kernel compatible with EMC (plus all of its supporting utilities) is where I
go into the "Duuuh" Zone... :)


> To upgrade XFree86 on any Red Hat box, I'd recommend going to
www.redhat.com
> and using the RPMs from the updates directories most suited to your
system.
> If you are on a RH6 based install and want to run the latest XFree86, then
> you could always compile from source.

Can you answer something for me? When you compile from that kind of source
(XFree86) do you use 'gcc' or 'perl' ?
I know that is a back to basics question but if I stumble upon a source
generally I'm not sure how to compile it....
Maybe I should just stick with the BDI's... LOL! Oh, wait, Ray Henry
told me to "Never Give Up!"
I guess I'm not doing enough research... Linux is a huge realm I tells ya!


>
> With BDI-Live, you could try booting with :
> morphix xmodule=vesa
> at the boot promt - These motherboards that share main memory with the
> graphics may not perform as well as expected for _any_ realtime
application.
> This is one of reasons that the Live CD was created - So that you could
test
> a computer before installing Linux and EMC.

Ok, I'll try that... I'm sliding more and more to just put everything in
my 2Gig system and be done with it. I have a Gforce TI4600 card in there.
Is that enough 3D power to handling things??? :) Besides, my ATI
Radeon 9800Pro performs better anyway.....
But still if I could get my EPIA 933Mhz board working properly that I built
for EMC I would be in heaven milling projects very soon.
Heck, even Jason Cox in Austrailia Outback is getting his done before me!
I suck... :)

>
> Out of interest, how long would it take to install and configure Windows
95
> on this MoBo ?

Easy. VIA created drivers for 95 and 98 right on the install disk.....
Hmmmm, You know... Now that you mention it... I just realized that when I
was testing it originally EMC was only out on RedHat 6.2. VIA Made Linux
drivers for RedHat 7.2 and it completely conflicted with the older kernel
build. Now, BDI-TNG uses 7.2...
Might be on to something here.... Your a genious! :) I'll get back with
you on this. Thanks!


> Regards, Paul.

Thanks for replying Paul!!!!

Vince